WHEN DECENCY LEFT AMERICA; STINKY HATE-FILLED ANTI-AMERICAN BIGOTS

etherzone.com ^ | 9/26/02 | Dave Franklin

[SandfleaCSC]

This idiot writes like he just got a blood transfusion from Jesse Helms and Pat Buchanan.

[rdb3]

I somewhat agree with your sentiment. But this author has it wrong on this front: There really isn't such a thing as a purely "American culture."

"American culture" is truly a culture of cultures.

So his premise breaks down immediately.

[BlueLancer]

"WHEN DECENCY LEFT AMERICA; STINKY HATE-FILLED ANTI-AMERICAN BIGOTS"

Take that, you poo-poo heads!

[PaulJ]

Are you sure this article wasn't really written by Ed Anger at the Weekly World News?

[dighton]

"I’m madder than a Nazi prison camp commandant with a foggy monocle."

[Uncle Miltie]

Perhaps we can encourage the wacko-left to decamp to Baghdad, and fight with Saddam against the Great Satan.

[FreeTally]

For all that we've been through, find a hippie, or a punk, or a raver and ask them why they hate their country.

Ravers and punks hate America? What the heck is this guy talking about?

Or maybe you can just tell them to start acting like a decent individual, worthy of the rights that were secured for them by American patriots who fought, bled, and died on battlefields so they could be free.

Worthy of rights? I thought we were all endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights? This guy has set up a "worthiness" test?

They may ask, what would we do without abortion, a radical gay agenda, flag-burning, violent protests, or drugs? Well, the answer to that is simple. America would just be a free country where people can raise their families.

People can't raise their families because of flag burning or drugs? Damn, this country must have fallen apart and I misssed it.

Kids could go to school without their parents worrying about them being shot or stabbed.

My parents never worried about this one time, and I suspect most parents do not either.

Illicit drug use would be a non-issue in America.

It should be a non-issue, you dufus(author), because its none of your damn business what people put in their bodies.

This guy has a few valid points, but he still has this mindset that the lack of freedom makes us more free.

[MHGinTN]

Damn, this country must have fallen apart and I misssed it. Yes, by your own admission, you missed it!... or were/are a part of the demolition crew.

[Orual]

[FreeTally]

Yes, by your own admission, you missed it!... or were/are a part of the demolition crew.

Yep, America's a wasteland, one of the poorest countries in the world. Such a horrible place to live.....

[swarthyguy]

So because i like the stones and rock and roll and jazz, i'm worse than a jihadi?

This guy is nuts. THis is a really ill formed article.

So much for the unity in the aftermath of the September Attacks.

This guy needs to fix his personal life. He didn't get laid in the summer of love or something. Or his wife left him for some longhaired musician, like Charlie Daniels or Willie Nelson?

So, like James Watts, he agrees the Beach Boys are a tool of Satan.

[GOP_1900AD]

Latter day brain flatulance. The culture of the USA is in the main a highly unique British colonial one. You've fallen for the revisionism yourself and are impacted by one of the many corrosive currents this article either mentions or implies. Any time I see so called "Conservatives" sharing such sentiments here, I must allude to what J.R. Nyquist wrote "the Right is a fiction [nearly] everyone is on the Left."

[rdb3]

Nonsense.

Are the regional cultures of the Midwest the same as they are in the South? But both are American, right?

I've fallen for nothing.

When I said "culture of cultures," I wasn't referring to foreign cultures. I'm speaking specifically of the cultures formed and maintained within America. Perhaps you should ask the question before you begin to assume.

[MHGinTN]

You don't have eyes to see the truth apparently. The economic strength of America is fading, following the moral strength in a rapid descending suck. I see you are part of the demolition squad, playing denial games in an immature blindness to the facts.

[Billy_bob_bob]

I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that one. Indeed, there is an "American culture". It is what we have left over after filtering out the more noxious components of the cultures we have assimilated. There is indeed, most certainly, an American culture.

Once we recognize that, perhaps we might endeavor to try to preserve some remnant of what little American culture we have left, before it is lost forever in the roaring bonfires of "multiculturalism" and "tolerance" and "diversity". Because there some cultures that are simply too different and too hostile to our culture to ever be assimilated, unless our strategy involves destroying ourselves in the name of being acceptable to those who wish to conquer us.

Why do I feel like I just revealed State Secret #1?

[Billy_bob_bob]

S/B "Because there ARE some cultures" - OOPS!

[Wallace T.]

The rise of what was once called the counterculture to ascendancy in this country cannot solely be traced to the emigration of Marxist-Gramscian intellectuals like Theodor Adorno or Herbert Marcuse to America. There are other threads: the effects of John Dewey and William James on American education, from kindergarten to graduate school, and philosophy, the collapse of orthodox Biblical belief in the mainline Protestant churches, the existing Communist/Socialist movement in America, both native born and immigrant, and the effects of 19th Century evolutionary theory and skepticism on many of the leading authors and thinkers of the century before last. Perhaps the European Marxist Gramscians provided the ignition for the rise of the barbarous culture that prevails today, but there was plenty of homegrown tinder with which to work.

There is an American culture and a distinct American identity. From at least the time of Washington Irving, Americans regarded themselves, and were regarded as foreigners, as a breed different than the subjects of the British monarch. American culture is European in origin, Chinese restaurants and jazz clubs notwithstanding, with the British strain predominant in our laws, language, and folk culture, the last particularly in the South.

The moral underpinnings of Anglo-American law derived from Biblical concepts, as seen in the writings of Blackstone. (Some Founding Fathers, notably Franklin and Jefferson, were deists, but their rejection of Christianity was confined to the supernatural elements, e.g., the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ. 18th Century Unitarians and Deists did not reject the Decalogue.) At its founding, the American nation was overwhelmingly Protestant and heavily Calvinist. While Catholics, Mormons, and Jews became prominent minorities in this country during the 19th Century, the moral codes of those faiths were virtually the same as that of the Protestant majority. By and large, the non-British Protestant immigrants contributed to this country by their labor and ingenuity, and are not responsible for the rise of sexual immorality or the predominance of situation ethics.

While the author of this article overemphasizes the role of European Marxist Gramscian intellectuals in the transformation (or properly the deformation) of our nation, he is entirely correct in his belief that America has (or had) a distinct culture. It is also one that is worth preserving.

[GOP_1900AD]

At the national level, yes they are the same. According to your argument, in the mother country, the scouser would be from a different "culture" than the high brow southerner. What you are refering to are actually subcultures but not distinct national cultures. We are splitting hairs here, I think we actually agree.