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Gov't Had Missile in Okla. Building
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Posted on 09/26/2002 5:15:55 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: eno_
"I have to agree. I usually the firt to rip Keystone Kops a new one, but from the account it sounds as if the missile was specially prepared to be as safe as possible for use in sting operations. A non-event."
Safe in case the "sting" "went bad" and the "stingee" escaped and evaded with the missile.
I do wonder which "militia" group they were hoping to ensnare with it.
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posted on
09/26/2002 11:10:26 AM PDT
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PLMerite
To: harpseal
Hmmm ping.
To: archy
OK...now I want one. :)
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posted on
09/26/2002 11:31:55 AM PDT
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gundog
To: PLMerite
I do wonder which "militia" group they were hoping to ensnare with it.I would like to know which militia group was in the market for a TOW missile.
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posted on
09/26/2002 11:33:04 AM PDT
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Poohbah
To: Poohbah
"I would like to know which militia group was in the market for a TOW missile."
After Waco, I could imagine any number of groups wanting some kind of anti-armor capability.
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posted on
09/26/2002 11:44:11 AM PDT
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PLMerite
To: PLMerite
After Waco, I could imagine any number of groups wanting some kind of anti-armor capability.Mm-hmm. Anything to keep that standoff going, right?
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posted on
09/26/2002 11:46:49 AM PDT
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Poohbah
To: Poohbah
"Mm-hmm. Anything to keep that standoff going, right?"
Hey, you plays the game, you takes your chances. Regardless of where one's sympathy lies, it's undeniable that Ruby Ridge and Waco begat OKC.
You can't expect people - good or bad - to not take steps they feel are necessary to defend themselves.
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posted on
09/26/2002 12:12:51 PM PDT
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PLMerite
To: PLMerite
It was Customs, not ATF. So I assume the target was foreign.
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posted on
09/26/2002 12:39:14 PM PDT
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eno_
To: gundog
OK...now I want one. :) There may be some more attractive possibilities for you....
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posted on
09/26/2002 1:23:29 PM PDT
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archy
To: eno_
"It was Customs, not ATF. So I assume the target was foreign."
Or they were going for a "two-fer," the foreigners already had a "domestic terrorist" buyer lined up and the Feds were going for the big sting.
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posted on
09/26/2002 1:36:17 PM PDT
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PLMerite
To: PLMerite
"It was Customs, not ATF. So I assume the target was foreign." Ollie North's pals peddling TOWS to the Iranians again?
Sounds like a Democratic Justice Department operation, all right....
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posted on
09/26/2002 3:29:51 PM PDT
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archy
To: xzins
The Tow is our current SOLDIER-DEPLOYED anti-tank weapon....the descendant of the old bazooka. While it is more easily mounted on a Hummer, it is intended for individual use rather than team use. THEREFORE, it is deployable by an individual. Nope. Think you're thinking of the dragon.
Tow missiles need a tripod/mount, and a bulky control unit- while a couple of guys can manhandle the components around, they were never intended to be carried/fired by one man.
To: fourdeuce82d
I don't believe it was designed to be carried by one man....that's why the humvee mount. But isn't it designed to be fired by ONE INDIVIDUAL SOLDIER. If not, it's crew-served, and I didn't think it was in that category. In any case, I bow to your greater knowledge.
Have you seen the javelin perform yet? I was looking at an actions series of photos out at Marshall Space center, Huntsville about a month ago. It's pretty awesome. Maybe they had video, too. I don't remember.
In any case, I remember them saying it is something like 40 pounds or so and designed for an individual soldier. I think that includes the missile, but I'm not sure. Forty pounds is a lot of extra weight for a soldier to hump.
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posted on
09/27/2002 5:13:39 AM PDT
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xzins
To: Poohbah
Anything to keep that standoff going, right? Especially if the *police* involved are a death squad coming to murder as many of the witnesses as they can, using tanks and automatic grenade launchers in case the kids are still conscious enough to run out of the buildings the murderers torched.
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posted on
09/27/2002 7:49:32 AM PDT
by
archy
bttt
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