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To: Humidston
re #113....one thing i haven't seen or heard explained is why the parking lot camera followed her to the car??? was some perv in security just checking out the back pockets of her jeans or what? how many people exit the store each hr and does the parking lot cams follow everyone of them? I'll be you a 1/2 pint of cheap whiskey that if she had been 5'2' and 250-275 lbs, she could have killed that girl and skinned her out in the parking lot and there wouldn't be a video....i know what i think i saw and what the mother has said, but something still just doesn't add up right...can't quite put a finger on it, but sumpin jus ain't right!!
125 posted on 09/25/2002 2:34:48 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: cajun-jack
The video camera was brought out by the store. From what I understand there was some sort of incident in the store and they asked them to leave. I am unclear if she was trying to return merchandise which really had not been purchased or if Martha was opening Barbie packages and Toogood was supervising her. At any rate, they decided to film her. My estimation is that they are used to scam artists like this and a video is the best protection they have should an argument ensue and Toogood claim assault or if Toogood were to somehow get injured and try to sue them later. The film was the store's, which is why they knew her name and MO so quickly.

Normally, I don't like intervention from the state into a family situation. However, this is an exception. These people are itinerant thieves. They are teaching their kids nothing but scams (maybe later using them as foils-like a "King of the Gypsies" scenario). They have no residence and I don't think the kids even go to school of any sort (unless she's homeschooling, pity the students!). We will pay for them now or later and with a foster family, there is at least a snowball's chance that the kids will turn out ok.

What no one has said is if these crooks are citizens or not.

135 posted on 09/25/2002 2:48:55 PM PDT by MHT
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To: cajun-jack
I've heard the store camera followed her because they were suspicious - due to her behavior inside their store. My bet is she tried to scam them and they figured they'd better watch till she'd exited the parking lot.
137 posted on 09/25/2002 2:52:03 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: cajun-jack
The mother was suspected of trying to return stolen goods, and possibly of shoplifting as well. She is probably well known to store security personnel, and they were doing their jobs by tracking her on camera -- then when they saw her start beating the kid they zoomed the camera in.
164 posted on 09/25/2002 4:10:03 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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