[Havoc]

Another fine example of why one must actually use one's brains and do more than listen to any story told claiming to be history. If one makes statements purporting to be historical fact, whether accepted by anyone or not, one cannot simply take things on their face or one might believe Such fables as that Shishak was Shoshenk I, that Cleopatra was black or that Constantine was a Christian.

Much of history has been manipulated by people with agendas.
The Roman church spent centuries remanufacturing history to suit it's purposes. Hitler's third Riech made it up as they went and today's Liberals in america attempt to rewrite history at every turn to support their pathetic lifestyles. If you can get to the bottom of what they're saying - you'll quickly find why it's being said and what's attempted to be propped up with it. You'll usually find that the perversion of history is used as an excuse to prop up a current practice at the time of the perversion. By example the destruction of true Jewish History by way of German Propaganda in WWII was intended to remove the notion of the Jew as a chosen race of God. The Aryans can't be the Chosen or "master" race if the Jews already own that title. Therefore they reinvented history and defamed and destroyed the Jews in order to prop up their new assertion that the Aryan was the chosen.

The Roman Catholic Church is full to the brim of examples of this - not the least of which is the Roman deception and rewrite of History that is the Isidorian decretals and the frauds of Gracian. But to put those indoctrinated in such beliefs on the spot is to ask them to think for themselves, which they often cannot or will not do. Thus the American black woman who sells the notion that Cleopatra was black to puff herself up on fantasies - or the liberal who will fight feverishly to insist that maybe tomorrow - Roosevelt was a homo or sumsuch so that it makes it seem more acceptable for the 40 year old guy next door to lull your 17 year old into the notion that it's ok to be a homo because someone says today that Roosevelt was one. "So just bend over like the prison boys showed me and I'll teach you how to be one.." Pathetic; but, it's the way it often works. Sickening things often need fantastic stories to make them seem normal. And bottom feeders will employ any tactic at their disposal - as will religious zealots trying to create history to prop up something they otherwise have no support for. Wasn't it the Mormons who wanted us to believe that little winged men lived on the moon and that blacks could not be 'saved'...

Have fun with history. Learn from it. But don't abuse it lest the truth come to find you out and show you to be a liar. :)

[Wordsmith]

or that Constantine was a Christian.

Hi Havoc. Try to keep this stuff on the Religion forum. This is too good an article to hijack by agitating for Roman Catholics and Orthodox Christians to come in and defend St. Constantine.

[ccmay]

the Roman deception and rewrite of History that is the Isidorian decretals and the frauds of Gracian. But to put those indoctrinated in such beliefs on the spot is to ask them to think for themselves

Yeah, I got those darned old Isidorian decretals and frauds of Gracian hammered into my head at the dinner table, right along with the Ten Commandments and the Lord's Prayer. But I'm over it now.

-ccm