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Florida Muslims try to right some people's tilted view (Wahhabi Lobby Still Doesn't Get It)
Miami Herald ^ | 22 September 2002 | CASSIO FURTADO

Posted on 09/22/2002 7:07:17 PM PDT by Stultis

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1 posted on 09/22/2002 7:07:17 PM PDT by Stultis
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''They are concentrating their efforts on Muslims, the most law-abiding people in this country,'' Bedier said. ``They don't drink, they don't smoke, they don't commit adultery. What's so scary about that?''

YOU are what's scary, Ahmed.

For example, I know any number of Muslims who drink, and who smoke. Most of them keep the five pillars, but don't sweat the small stuff. But to you, these aren't "real" Muslims, now are they? Narrow-minded, intollerant monoculture muslim-o-bots like you and your CAIR-horts are scary as hell, even with all concerns regarding terrorism to one side. If you don't understand this, and why this is so, then you don't understand America.

2 posted on 09/22/2002 7:16:53 PM PDT by Stultis
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"Wahhabi Lobby" -- I love it.
4 posted on 09/22/2002 7:21:09 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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5 posted on 09/22/2002 7:26:12 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Pearls Before Swine; Travis McGee; knighthawk
The great Travis McGee quote works just fine here:

"Moderate islam is the trojan horse of radical islam."

6 posted on 09/22/2002 7:28:07 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Cindy
ME, TOO!!!!
7 posted on 09/22/2002 7:28:33 PM PDT by crazykatz
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I feel so sorry for them....well...I think I will send them all hams from Swiss Colony online!!
8 posted on 09/22/2002 7:30:19 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: GWELO
All muslims are the enemy.

That's bull. Islam requires major reform, in fact needs to become a reformist religion like Christianity and Judaism have. Many Muslims recognize this.

9 posted on 09/22/2002 7:37:39 PM PDT by Stultis
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LOL!! You are so hilarious!!
11 posted on 09/22/2002 7:47:05 PM PDT by crazykatz
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So will moderate Muslims allow Muslims to leave Islam without the fear of being called a murtad and thus becoming a target of the law of apostasy in Islam?

Even in the most democratic, moderate forms of Islam it is clear that the only punishment for anyone who leaves Islam is death. I've yet to hear any moderate Muslim say otherwise.

See Democracy According to Isalm by Dr. Niaz Faizi Kabuli which John Esposito of Georgetown University calls an important work on this subject.

12 posted on 09/22/2002 7:48:04 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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Not true, and an idiotic thing to say, I think, considering some history of Islam. Preditory Wahhabis attacked Medina and and Mecca 1803 to 1818, wresting those places from Turk Moslems, and plundered the tomb of Mahomet himself. They were eventually repulsed by Egyptian troops and their leaders beheaded. Abd ul Wahab, the founder of the sect, fancied himself a reformer of the religion; he was a lot like the modern day zealots who trouble us now.

Militant, radical Islamic "reformers" are a problem for Moslems, too. These offspring of the original Wahhabs and reconstituted Assassins have organized out of their desert exile to once again bully the Arab world. They must be squished like bugs. But to sweepingly condem all Moslems is wierd. If they live by the Golden Rule, I have no problem with them. And most do. Consider the young Iranians, now struggling against these buttheads in their own country.

13 posted on 09/22/2002 7:49:24 PM PDT by dasboot
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Too bad the Miami Herald didn't give any advance notice of the terrorist meeting in Davie, they would have got a warm reception from the locals.

I wonder what would have happened to anybody holding up an "Islam Is a Suicidal Death Cult " sign.

Probably would have been decapitated by one of the towel headed psychotic murdering subhumans.

15 posted on 09/22/2002 7:52:31 PM PDT by Rome2000
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Sayed Hemayed, of the Muslim American Society, said that mistreating immigrants was the ``beginning of the destruction of a country.''

So Jewsw or Christians immigrating to, say Saudi Arabia, will be treated with full respect?? And allowed to practice their religion openly?

16 posted on 09/22/2002 7:52:38 PM PDT by js1138
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I'm thinking of going to the Saudi Embassy to apply for a visa to visit Mecca. Want to join me? I think it would be great if we can make a media event out of a group of us going there and then being turned away and then a few of us could speak in front of the camaras of how Saudi does not allow Christians to visit Mecca.
17 posted on 09/22/2002 7:55:38 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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``They don't drink, they don't smoke, they don't commit adultery. What's so scary about that?''

Well, Mr Bedier, most of those folks who do smoke, drink, and commit adultry didn't happen to fly two passenger jets into the World Trade Center. Nor did most of the folks who drink, smoke and commit adultry jump for joy in the streets and/or silently condone the attacks.

Mr. Bedier, the people who DID fly those airliners into the World Trade Center, and jump for joy in the streets, and remain silent as to any condemnation of the actions, are/were Muslim. MUSLIM!

While this does not accuse all Muslims, pardon me if I happen to look a little askance at the practicioners of the 'Religion of Peace', while their compatriots continue to speak of killing more Americans with abandon.

I suspect, Mr. Bedier, that there are quite a few folks like myself who, while giving the benefit of doubt, and wish to believe that we can all make a circle, link arms, and sing 'Kumbaya', are silently getting tired and a bit angry at being made to look like the bad guys for being a bit wary.

As a side note, if those students were 'joking', their ordeal should remind them and others from the Middle East that this is not a laughing matter to a lot of Americans who saw 3,000 innocent people die on September 11, 2001. I honestly fear for the well being of American society, and especially for those segments of Middle East extraction, if another 'event' like September 11 occurs.

18 posted on 09/22/2002 7:57:37 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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If these guys want to be good Americans why don't they make it appoint to criticize the lack of freedom in Saudi Arabia and the Islamic treatment of religious minorities?
19 posted on 09/22/2002 7:58:14 PM PDT by Tribune7
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I'm thinking of going to the Saudi Embassy to apply for a visa to visit Mecca.

Better, I think, to apply for permission to set up a missionary church -- you pick the denomination. Just be sure there are plenty of news cameras watching.

20 posted on 09/22/2002 8:00:24 PM PDT by js1138
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