Are These The Detailed Battle Plans For The Most Heavily Trailed Military Attack In Modern History

Independent (UK) ^ | 9-23-2002 | Rupert Cornwell

[Cicero]

unprovoked?

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

...unprovoked military attack..."

Unprovoked my ass. If we don't hit Iraq, they're going to do it to us. Our preemptive strike is being done in self-defense. Besides, it can be shown that Iraq had involvement in 9-11. Paybacks are hell and we have a lot more freedom to hammer Iraq the second time around. If we sit and do nothing like the Euro-fags counsel, all we're doing is inviting worse attacks than 9-11.

[Tacis]

The "public" plans are a diversion, so devious that they are almost Clintonian. The elimination of Saddam is only the intermediate variable, the rationale for all else that will happen. The ultimate objective is the destruction of the anti-Israeli Muslim empire, while perserving the area's oil. We go in to take out Saddam but also take out Iran, reinstalling the House of Pahlevi, replace all the House of Saud with younger, much more compliant and western thinking princes, turn care of the holy places over to the Hashemites and the UN, and destroy the extremists in all the area, including those in Libya, Sudan, Yemen, and Syria. Indonesia, Pakistan and Egypt become "Turkified," where no cleric is allowed political power and the military guarantees a dynamic, non-religious society.

It will be almost like _The Godfather_, at the end, whenn ALL the problems are solved with one orgy of violence. It will be called "The Last Crusade," and shouldn't last more than three months. The really painful and tedious stuff will take place later when the Europeans want to take over.

[meenie]

February or March is giving the Iraqis a lot of time to prepare. Why is the United States so fearful of a small country like Iraq? This is like fighting California.

[EternalHope]

Senator Joseph Biden, the chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, warned on US television yesterday that if Israel responded to an attack, no Muslim nation, including such critical allies as Saudi Arabia and Turkey, could support the American effort against Iraq, even behind the scenes.

Biden is full of it. Even in the absolute worst case we would still have Turkey on our side, and almost certainly have our key allies as well.

If Syria and Saudi Arabia, in particular, decided to get too aggressive, it might even make it easier for us to take care of business with them as well. Hence, I would expect both of them to lay low no matter what Israel does.

This is the message Biden should be sending. Instead he tells them what they most want to hear: He is afraid.

[AmericaUnited]

Ahh... if only it was so.

[spectr17]

Look for a 2 or 3 prong armor attack coming from neighboring countries. The XVIII Airborne Corps, led by USAF CCT, will take an airfield or two inside Iraq in an airborne assault, opening up the resupply lines. It'll be fast and furious fighting, blitzkreig at it's finest. With British SAS and our D boys probably already operating in Iraq they will quickly hunt down Saddam and fix his wagon. CIA already has two puppets to prop up in Saddam's sudden departure. Tis good to be the King no?

Only gotcha is Saddam getting some nasties off to land on Israel.

The real head of the terrorist snake is Iran and their whacked out mullahs who are bent on destroying the US. Remember 1979 when Iran declared Jihad on us? They consider it still on but many of us have forgotten them. In a perfect world, that heavy armor of ours would hook right after steamrolling Iraq and take on Iran. I don't think our leaders have the stones to do it or the support but they know where the terror is originating from. I say let the 7th armor lead the way into Tehran for some payback for those 300 Marines in Lebanon.

[Ligeia]

Would you happen to know why Marines preparing to go to Iraq would be heading for Japan first?

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

It will be called "The Last Crusade,"

Nope!

Lucas and Spielberg have exclusive rights to that title!!

[Pearls Before Swine]

In a perfect world, that heavy armor of ours would hook right after steamrolling Iraq and take on Iran. I don't think our leaders have the stones to do it or the support but they know where the terror is originating from. I say let the 7th armor lead the way into Tehran for some payback for those 300 Marines in Lebanon.

In this non-perfect world, perhaps the Turks might be interested in retaking a good part of Syria and Iraq. After all, the retaken territory would still be Muslim, although of a more reasonable kind, so what would the Arab world have to complain of?

[Spacetrucker]

This would fall under the purview of Military Strategy and Preparedness - remember, loose lips sink ships.

[M Kehoe]

Yes, now I sit behind a computer. Typing away in relative security, war years and the ability to fight them in my past. No more M-60, BDU's or my M-16. I am now an armchair warrior.

True, I have no children in the coming battle, nor any relatives that may die in the field, but I say the following with clarity...

Iraq, we are coming. You will have two choices: fight and die, or surrender. I also hope other Arab capitals and the so called Arab street read these words: You have a choice, throw off your shackles, depose your despots and join us, or reap the whirlwind. We have the power to lay your cities and populations to waste. Choose wisely.

5.56mm

[Teacher317]

Senator Joseph Biden, the chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, warned on US television yesterday that if Israel responded to an attack, no Muslim nation, including such critical allies as Saudi Arabia and Turkey, could support the American effort against Iraq, even behind the scenes. "And you would find probably every embassy in the Middle East burnt to the ground before it went too far," he added.

Once again, Israel has to tolerate military attacks, because it would be 'unpopular' and 'destabilizing' for the war for them to respond. Simply amazing that we repeatedly and unquestioningly bow to such stupidities.

(Add the refusal to recognize an independent Taiwan to that list, BTW).

[Jim Noble]

>>Why is the United States so fearful of a small country like Iraq? This is like fighting California<<

California is next.

[Teacher317]

Why is the United States so fearful of a small country like Iraq? This is like fighting California.

From the movie "Stripes":

"C'mon, it's Czechoslovakia! We zip in, we pick 'em up, we zip right out again! We're not going to Moscow. It's Czechoslovakia! It's like we're going into Wisconsin!"

[Ligeia]

No, I doubt it falls in the loose lips sink ships category. It's not a secret. My question is more about our facilities in Japan. Is Japan a staging area for other maneuvers?

[CyberAnt]

How can we be pre-emptive - we have over 3000 bodies of innocent people to retaliate for! Pre-emptive my foot!!

[Spacetrucker]

Going to our bases in Japan may not be a secret, But I can assure you from personal experience that some things they do there are. I merely said that to avoid giving those who would harm us any ideas.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

I was thinking of "pre-emptive" in terms of future attacks, but I sure do see what you mean. Heck, I agree with you.