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GERMAN ELECTION (Running Thread): Schroeder by a Nosehair
Die Welt- translated ^ | 9/22/02 | Die Welt

Posted on 09/22/2002 7:45:04 AM PDT by RobFromGa

Election turnout probably smaller than 1998
 

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Berlin/Rostock (dpa) - with the election to the Bundestag a smaller participation than before drew four years starting from 1998 lay it Germany far with 82,2 per cent in the late Sunday afternoon. However the returning officers reported high letter voter at the same time of a ratio. Everywhere the letter voters were not already taken in account. Thus a factor of uncertainty remained existing.

As one inquires around approximately three hours before locking of the polling stations resulted in, to against 15.00 o'clock in most Lands of the Federal Republic a clearly lower election turnout was registered. In Saxonia-Anhalt the participation lay at this time approximately 15 points under the values of the yearly 1998, in other Lands of the Federal Republic up to eight points. Also in the capital went to Berlin with herbstlich to cool weather clearly less voter to the urns.

On the other hand there was the tendency in few other Lands of the Federal Republic also to an easily higher election turnout - in such a way in Schleswig-Holstein and in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, where at the same time a new federal state parliament was selected.

In Saxonia the returning officers spoke first of a surprisingly large resonance, then the interest decreased/went back however clearly. Also in Bavaria the choice encountered in the first hours in some cities a substantially larger interest than 1998. There the participation up to 12 per cent points in the comparison rose to the same time before four years. Against noon this tendency decreased/went back likewise, of a clear minus was later spoken. It was similar in North Rhine-Westphalia and Hamburg.

From other Lands of the Federal Republic a rather weak resonance was determined. In Hessen, Thuringia, Saarland and Bremen the values decreased/went back. Also in Rhineland-Palatinate, Brandenburg and Lower Saxony the crush was smaller than 1998. In Baden-Wuerttemberg it meant: Election turnout constantly.

The polling stations for the election to the Bundestag had opened o'clock punctually at 08.00. 61,2 million Federal citizen were called to select a new parliament. With the election of the federal parliament in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania were entitled to vote about 1.4 million citizen.

After last inquiries and prognoses to the exit the SPD with Federal Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder was appropriate for the election to the Bundestag scarcely before the union with her candidate for the chancellorship Edmund Stoiber (CSU). Since also the smaller parties FDP and the Green were strongly estimated approximately in each case equal, the continuation of the red-green coalition was considered as uncertain. For a government majority in the parliament it could be crucial whether the Party of Democratic Socialism draws again into the Bundestag or not.

The Social Democrats set to come into the proximity of their result from 1998 to. At that time they reached 40.9 per cent of the secondary voices. CDU/CSU had slipped before four years to 35,1 per cent, their secondaryworst result with elections to the Bundestag. The Greens reached 6.7 per cent, the FDP came on 6,2 per cent. The Party of Democratic Socialism overcame the five-per cent hurdle with 5,1 per cent scarcely.

After last inquiries in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania a confirmation of the red-red coalition of SPD and Party of Democratic Socialism under head of the government Harald Ringstorff (SPD) applied as extremely probable. 1998 had the SPD 34.3, which reaches Party of Democratic Socialism 24.4 and the CDU 30.2 per cent.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; elections; germany; schroeder; stoiber
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To: VaBthang4
...then everyone will blame the jews and we'll start having a 1930 style vibe going again throughout the Deutchland.

Problem is that there aren't enough German Jews left to blame. Solution is to blame Israeli Jews and their American supporters.

301 posted on 09/22/2002 11:58:46 AM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: RobFromGa
Looks like the watermelon coalition is going to win, 304 to 297...
302 posted on 09/22/2002 12:03:35 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
watermelon coalition?

lol
303 posted on 09/22/2002 12:04:10 PM PDT by SkyRat
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To: eabinga
how much percentage of the vote's been counted?
304 posted on 09/22/2002 12:05:07 PM PDT by marajade
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To: eabinga
how many seats are there? Is it 598 or some different number?
305 posted on 09/22/2002 12:05:29 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: VaBthang4
Their Socialist system will collapse the country at an exponential rate....

This is the real story behind the scenes in socialist Europe. The drag on their economy caused by paying more people to do less work is placing them in an extremely poor competitive situation vis the USA and other less socialistic countries (particularly those in Asia), and they haven't hit bottom yet.

306 posted on 09/22/2002 12:06:39 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: SkyRat
watermelon coalition?

Green on the outside, red on the inside....

307 posted on 09/22/2002 12:06:59 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: marajade
The right coalition wrestled a seat back. 300 spd, 298 cdu, 2 pds.
308 posted on 09/22/2002 12:07:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: vbmoneyspender
600 seats/
309 posted on 09/22/2002 12:07:30 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: vbmoneyspender
how many seats are there? Is it 598 or some different number? It varies...depends on how many overhangs they have...
310 posted on 09/22/2002 12:07:53 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
It varies...depends on how many overhangs they have...

What does this mean? Are these overhanging chads?

311 posted on 09/22/2002 12:09:02 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Torie
How many questionable districts are there left with votes uncounted wherein there make a difference?
312 posted on 09/22/2002 12:09:03 PM PDT by marajade
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To: vbmoneyspender
The seats in the Bundestag are filled by a mixed system of direct voting and proportional representation.

A party's percentage share of the second vote -- for lists of candidates provided by each party -- determines how many seats it holds. But if it wins more directly elected seats than its percentage share would allow, more seats are created, expanding the number beyond the normal 598 total.

A party is allowed to sit in the Bundestag only if it has received at least 5 percent of the votes cast in the second ballot. But there is an exception -- if a party manages to get three or more deputies directly elected, it is allowed into parliament even if its share of the vote is less than 5 percent nationally.

313 posted on 09/22/2002 12:11:16 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga
The assembly just grew by 4 seats for inexplicable reasons. spd 303, cdu 299, pds 2.
314 posted on 09/22/2002 12:12:52 PM PDT by Torie
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To: eabinga
299 to 302 now + 2 commies
315 posted on 09/22/2002 12:14:01 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: McGavin999
Losertarian, Green, Liberal, Anarchist, Earth Liberation Front...

They're all the same to me...

Not Conservative.

316 posted on 09/22/2002 12:15:04 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: eabinga
scratch that last one:

299 to 303 + 2 commies

604 seats up to now
317 posted on 09/22/2002 12:15:04 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: eabinga

Red= SPD -244
Black=CDU/CSU -251
Green=Green -55
Yellow=FDP -48
Purple=PDS -2

SPD/Green/PDS 301 to CDU/CSU/FDP 299

But the PDS didn't get 3 seats OR 5% minimum to be included as part of Parliament. What is the meaning of this "rule"?

318 posted on 09/22/2002 12:15:43 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: eabinga
So, Stoiber lost? Do I read you correctly?
319 posted on 09/22/2002 12:15:59 PM PDT by Wait4Truth
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To: Torie
The assembly just grew by 4 seats for inexplicable reasons

Not inexplicable...The directly elected representatives always get a seat. If their party doesn't have enough seats to accomodate them, new seats are created.

320 posted on 09/22/2002 12:17:11 PM PDT by eabinga
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