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None of the above: A depressing German election campaign comes to a close
The Times ^ | September 21, 2002 | The Times

Posted on 09/20/2002 11:07:11 PM PDT by MadIvan

In most democracies, the end of a long election campaign is received with relief by the voters. The citizens of Germany can be forgiven for being more grateful than average for the close of their proceedings. A miserable battle, which has revolved around personalities not policies and short-term populism not long-term dilemmas, has done nothing to address the real problems of Europe’s largest nation. It is difficult to conceive how any coalition which may emerge from the tortured post-poll negotiations will have either the mandate or the sense of mission to spur economic growth, slash unemployment or promote cohesion in a society that has been reunited, but hardly unified.

Gerhard Schröder opted to appear at his final major party rally in Dortmund last night alongside Gunter Gräss, the Nobel prize-winning author, and Goran Persson, the Swedish Prime Minister. That choice was appropriate, for the Chancellor’s campaign has been a work of fiction and if it has had any theme at all, it has been, like that of the soggy Swedish Social Democrats, an unthinking defence of the status quo. Herr Schröder has proved an astute tactician on the hustings but with no sense of a strategy. He has felt the pain of the flood victims in eastern Germany with skill, but is in no position, despite his promises, to line their pockets. His vocal stance against any war with Iraq has been opportunism run riot.

There will be serious consequences of this reckless approach if he is re-elected. The reported remarks of his Justice Minister Herta Däubler-Gmelin, comparing George W. Bush to Adolf Hitler, have compounded the outrage in Washington that the Chancellor has decided to run against his opponents by running down the Bush President. The notion that everything will be forgotten come Monday is optimistic. Mr Bush is known for having a good memory for insults.

If Herr Schröder has been shameless then his rivals have been hapless. Edmund Stoiber, the Christian Democrat candidate for Chancellor, could and should have directed his fire squarely on economic stagnation. He has instead conducted himself in a staggeringly inept manner. He has provided no compelling sense of urgency on the questions that matter most to Germany’s future and has too easily been seduced by the prospect of scoring cheap points by lashing out at unpopular minorities. In truth, he has not even done that effectively. Herr Schröder’s record is such that a neutral should have felt able to endorse the opposition if only on a “time for a change” basis. The performance of the Christian Democrats means that this low hurdle has not been cleared.

The leader of the Free Democrats, Guido Westerwelle, has at least attempted to address the questions that the larger two parties have studiously avoided. But even here, the dubious populism of a minority in his ranks, led by his deputy, Jurgen Mollemann, has been an embarrassment. The Greens are content to live off the popularity of Joschka Fischer, their leader and the Foreign Minister. The former communist PDS remain prisoners of an appalling past.

There are times when affluent countries can afford an incoherent polity. Switzerland, for example, has coped with one for many years. Germany is, however, showing disturbing signs of the symptoms which have immobilised Japan for the past decade. It cannot afford the pantomime that this contest has become. In one of the last polls to be published before the election 54 per cent of voters said that they were dissatisfied with the work of the Social Democrats in office while 57 per cent declared themselves discontent with Herr Stoiber and his colleagues. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that those electors are absolutely right.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: election; germany; hitler; schroeder; seigheil; stoiber; weimaer
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If Schroeder wins, Germany is going to have serious problems asking anything from anyone - I've never seen a nation commit such political suicide as with their behaviour on the Iraq war and the Hitler remarks.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 09/20/2002 11:07:11 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Bump!
2 posted on 09/20/2002 11:07:36 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
The notion that everything will be forgotten come Monday is optimistic. Mr Bush is known for having a good memory for insults.

Got that right and I won't forget it either

3 posted on 09/20/2002 11:16:37 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: MadIvan
Germany has finally won back its low standing. I doubt if much of anything can save it, in the world of diplomacy , now.

President Bush is NOT going to forget the impugnation, which he has lately suffered, at the hands of these people. Either they're with us, or they're against us. They're not " with " us.

4 posted on 09/20/2002 11:16:46 PM PDT by nopardons
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I wish someone would explain what that woman was thinking when she made those remarks. Did she think that the US and W would just forget and let it slide?
5 posted on 09/20/2002 11:19:04 PM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: Unknown Freeper
She didn't " think " and I doubt that she cares what President Bush thinks about it. Some people just don't understand that words , once said, can't be taken back. Words not only have meanings, they can do a great deal of harm .

If the media has managed to do one thing, it's been to convince some people, that the president is an idiot. The true idiot, is the person who discounts him.

6 posted on 09/20/2002 11:22:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Unknown Freeper
I wish someone would explain what that woman was thinking when she made those remarks. Did she think that the US and W would just forget and let it slide?

She's a socialist. She assumes her feelings are more valid than actual thought.

Regards, Ivan

7 posted on 09/20/2002 11:24:20 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Having lived almost 4 years in Germany in the late 50's, early 60's, I can aver that German arrogance knows no bounds. Even at that time, they acted as if they won WWII
and we were in country to serve them. I never met a German whose equal I was. They considered me either beneath them or above them.

Please, don't anyone look for help from that quarter until they see something in it for themselves.

Vaudine
8 posted on 09/20/2002 11:24:58 PM PDT by vaudine
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"Did she think that the US and W would just forget and let it slide?"

She is a socialist.

Socialists don't "think". They "feel".

And, as a socialist, she doesn't give a fig what the US and W think.

9 posted on 09/20/2002 11:26:59 PM PDT by okie01
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To: MadIvan
The notion that everything will be forgotten come Monday is optimistic. Mr Bush is known for having a good memory for insults.

And they think HIS memory is good, wait til they get a load of OURS!!!

10 posted on 09/20/2002 11:31:11 PM PDT by McGavin999
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And they think HIS memory is good, wait til they get a load of OURS!!!

Their apology wasn't all that good either. I have to admit I'm surprised the Germans self-destructed so badly.

Regards, Ivan

11 posted on 09/20/2002 11:39:33 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I hope we pull out our military bases from Germany. They dont need our money nor our boys in blue's paycheck to help their economy with attitudes like theirs currently. I'd prefer to bring them back home but if thats not an option I'm sure other European countries like Italy, Turkey, Poland, etc would love to have our cash infusion.
12 posted on 09/21/2002 12:58:19 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: MadIvan
From what I have confirmed in my research, the opponent is as virulent an America hater as Schroeder and his band.
13 posted on 09/21/2002 3:39:20 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: rb22982
Yes, we need to get our troops out of Germany. Call your senators and representative and let them know you want action...
14 posted on 09/21/2002 3:48:06 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: MadIvan
If Schroeder wins, Germany is going to have serious problems asking anything from anyone - I've never seen a nation commit such political suicide as with their behaviour on the Iraq war and the Hitler remarks.

Well said Ivan. The hunds that parade as German leaders have gone over the edge now. They fully deserve to sink into the economic oblivion that is their just due.

Looks like all the socialist/liberal leaders of Europe are headed for the dust bin of history. Will Tony be smart enough to avoid the same fate?

15 posted on 09/21/2002 3:59:43 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: MadIvan
I've bought my last BMW.


BUMP

16 posted on 09/21/2002 4:08:33 AM PDT by tm22721
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To: OldFriend
Some of your research may point to that, but Stoiber has to be careful about saying things that won't get him killed in the election on Sunday. Stoiber is millions better than Schroeder and will be a good ally of the US. Stoiber comes from Bavaria, the most conservative state in Germany. If he wins you will see a big difference in how Germany views and treats the US.
17 posted on 09/21/2002 4:24:05 AM PDT by UofORepublican
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Stoiber said that if we go to war against Iraq without UN approval he will demand that we remove ourselves from ALL bases on Germany. This is a million times better than Schroeder?
18 posted on 09/21/2002 4:30:25 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: rb22982
Our military bases are in Germany for good reason......preventing Germany from doing what they do best......starting wars.
19 posted on 09/21/2002 4:31:42 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: tm22721
May I take this opportunity to advertise British wares? ;)

MG Cars

Regards, Ivan

20 posted on 09/21/2002 4:40:08 AM PDT by MadIvan
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