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Videotape of Florida Detainees at Tollboth hits airwaves.

Posted on 09/20/2002 8:46:10 AM PDT by Stu Cohen

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To: Squantos
Sounds very very nice....I'm jealous. Are thinking of the Paris/Dhakar rally...LOL.
61 posted on 09/20/2002 10:53:31 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Redbob
I have yet to meet a person of Japanese descent who did not think of himself as Japanese first, American (or other) second.

You are either racist or totally ignorant of history. Just about every military age interned Japanese volunteered for military service and fought in Europe where they were one of the military's most decorated unit during the war. Hawaii's Senator Inouye (although he's a rascally Democrat) fought in that unit and left his arm in Europe.

The reason the Japanese were interned was partially paranoia and partially greed. California politicians confiscated the homes and possessions of those interned. To "offset" this debt the US government paid each internee $10,000 back in the 70's.

62 posted on 09/20/2002 10:56:44 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Redbob
I have yet to meet a person of Japanese descent who did not think of himself as Japanese first, American (or other) second.

This is truly one of the most repulsive racist things I have seen written on Free Republic. You ever hear of the 442nd regiment?
63 posted on 09/20/2002 10:58:18 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: wardaddy
I'm not a hard corp rock crawler or mudder but I try and obtain the best of all things to make my vehicle a comfy cruiser on dirt or asphalt. I like to enjoy the outdoors and my vehicle gets my tired broke carcass places I can't hike to anymore per se and back and forth to work every day :o)

Stay Safe WD !!

64 posted on 09/20/2002 11:14:39 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: HairOfTheDog
The tipper is not responsible for being right, nor is she responsible for the reactions of the police, the media, or the suspects.

That is a lesson in itself, perhaps. But it is not her lesson... it is the authorities and the media that need to learn how to react to a new world.

Excellent point!


65 posted on 09/20/2002 11:19:08 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Stu Cohen
So I guess now we can count on Eunice Stone coming out soon and saying she made the whole thing up. Everything I was told was true the first day or so, is now found to be false. The dogs did not hit, these guys did not blow a tollbooth, they had valid plates, they were cooperative just asserting their Constitutional Rights, etc. The media dropped the ball big time on this.

This stinks to high heaven. When they find out she filed a false report, I hope they lock her up for a long time. No wonder she ran to the hospital to hide after media whoring for Fox for an entire afternoon. She wasted the valuable time of Fla. police and caused three young men 18 hours of hell being locked up in a Van for doing nothing wrong. She's lucky that they are gracious enough not to sue her even though her nonsense caused them to lose out on their medical education in Miami.

66 posted on 09/20/2002 11:24:20 AM PDT by toupsie
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To: Squantos
I like to enjoy the outdoors and my vehicle gets my tired broke carcass places I can't hike to anymore per se and back and forth to work every day :

Big amen.

67 posted on 09/20/2002 11:30:50 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Redbob
My wife's grandfather was that. He was American first and happened to be Japanese. Joined the Nissei when he was 17 to fight (also to get the hell out of the camps) against the forces of Nazism and Fascism. His mother was two when she came to America and she was interned along with his father (who was 19 when he came). His mother was also an American first and Japanese second and put her tiny little foot on her 4'10" frame down and said that they were staying in America until they died once they were released. Your apology is accepted.
68 posted on 09/20/2002 11:42:45 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: FreeTally
You got that right. Even a liar can tell the truth once in a while, but he's still a liar. Arabs lie.
69 posted on 09/20/2002 11:51:41 AM PDT by Wingsofgold
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To: IYAS9YAS
My wife's grandfather was that. He was American first and happened to be Japanese. Joined the Nissei when he was 17 to fight (also to get the hell out of the camps) against the forces of Nazism and Fascism. His mother was two when she came to America and she was interned along with his father (who was 19 when he came). His mother was also an American first and Japanese second and put her tiny little foot on her 4'10" frame down and said that they were staying in America until they died once they were released. Your apology is accepted.

And sadly, they had to put up with ignorant people like RedBob who would judge them based entirely on their ancestry. Good luck with that apology - I'm not holding my breath...
70 posted on 09/20/2002 11:54:04 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Wingsofgold
Arabs lie.

And Americans are always truthful.
71 posted on 09/20/2002 11:55:10 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Wingsofgold
You got that right. Even a liar can tell the truth once in a while, but he's still a liar. Arabs lie.

I'm not sure I understand your reply. I got what right? That people like you are paranoid racists?

72 posted on 09/20/2002 11:55:42 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: zeaal
You've got that wrong. All along the men have said the first car stopped to pay, and then the second car stopped to pay for both - and demanded a receipt.

I pointed out in earlier thread the second car stopped to pay for the second only after a waiting squad car was spotted pulling out after the first and it was clear there was going to be trouble.

The three men later confirmed in public interviews that this was the case.

I thought they were lying about paying the first toll.
Now it is proven they did not lie about the toll.

Im dissappointed in a way because if they had been caught in a lie with videotape of the toll, no one would have any more questions that they were lying about their comments in the Shoney's.

I have no doubt Eunice heard what she heard. She had ample opportunity to "puff up" their statements, but instead reported the ambiguous statements.

And, I think the dogs made a legitimate "hit".

BUt in this matter, the story they maintained all along is the truth.
73 posted on 09/20/2002 11:58:47 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: toupsie
The dogs did not hit, these guys did not blow a tollbooth, they had valid plates, they were cooperative just asserting their Constitutional Rights, etc. The media dropped the ball big time on this.

Yet, to most freepers here, the fact that these guys asserted their rights and didn't answer questions makes them guilty terrorists.

This was a total media "who can the scoop on terrorists first" with utter disregard for reporting facts instead of speculation and heresay.

74 posted on 09/20/2002 12:01:43 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Wingsofgold
You got that right. Even a liar can tell the truth once in a while, but he's still a liar. Arabs lie.

Caucasians lie.

75 posted on 09/20/2002 12:04:38 PM PDT by toupsie
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To: FreeTally
Yet, to most freepers here, the fact that these guys asserted their rights and didn't answer questions makes them guilty terrorists.

I have been very angry over the blantanly racist comments on Free Republic over the matter. I thought we (As a group) were above that. Scares me how little misinformation is needed to stoke up the fires of hatred here. Going back and looking at those threads make my stomach turn.

I really fear that Eunice did this not out of concern for national security but racial bias. It harms our country's ability to deal with the real terrorists -- the old story of crying wolf.

76 posted on 09/20/2002 12:10:11 PM PDT by toupsie
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To: JustAnAmerican
You got that right. How many times has their story
changed? They didn't stop, they did, they didn't
say anything, they were just joking. What is the
truth? Investigate them and find the man who took
them to rest up after their ordeal. No medical
school either! Tough!
78 posted on 09/20/2002 12:20:01 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: sierradove
NOTE to ALL: WE "NEED" TO BE MORE AND MORE SUSPICIOUS

Well, on the basis of one woman customer who said she overheard a conversation at a Shoney's, they closed down a major highway, brought out police, dogs and a bomb squad, and detained three people for 17 hours. How much more suspicious can we get?
79 posted on 09/20/2002 12:24:30 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: sierradove
I just called in to report a van with three middle East guys just sitting on the side of the road (on my little tiny Lane) for three hours.

What do you think they might have been doing there?
80 posted on 09/20/2002 12:25:54 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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