UK: Muslim who stabbed Jew to be detained in hospital

The Guardian ^ | September 19 2002

[knighthawk]

A Muslim who stabbed an orthodox Jew 20 times on the top deck of a London bus, was yesterday ordered by an Old Bailey judge to be detained in hospital without limit of time.

Algerian Nabil Ouldeddine, 29, made three separate attacks with two knives on student Mayer David Myers, 21, as passengers pleaded for the 253 bus to stop.

Mr Myers, whose injuries included a severed artery, was saved after a 10-hour emergency operation and was introduced to the Queen when she visited Homerton hospital, east London.

Police treated the attack as a racially motivated incident.

It happened in Stamford Hill, north London, where many orthodox Jews live and at a time when there was uprising on the West Bank. But a jury heard that Ouldeddine was insane when he committed the attack in October 2000.

He told psychiatrists he heard voices and a woman called Jennifer had guided his arm to attack Mr Myers.

The jury found him not guilty of attempted murder by reason of insanity.

The court was told that Ouldeddine was a one-legged high jumper who came to Britain in 1998 for the Paralympics in Birmingham. After his arrest, Ouldeddine had told officers: "Israel are the murderers. They kill women and children, so I stabbed him."

[knighthawk]

From the hadith:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 59, Number 176: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'"

[knighthawk]

A Muslim who stabbed an orthodox Jew 20 times on the top deck of a London bus, was yesterday ordered by an Old Bailey judge to be detained in hospital without limit of time.

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

[TopQuark]

Ouldeddine had told officers: "Israel are the murderers. They kill women and children, so I stabbed him."

Hatred --- yes, but insanity?

These people know how to work the western mind. Seems like this guy did.

[swarthyguy]

What we need to use on jihadis.

[CARepubGal]

That or a good old fashioned Rope, Chair, Tree.

[swarthyguy]

There's a certain symmetry to the guillotine seeing how much they like to behead people, particularly in Kashmir where 2 beheadings have occurred in the past two days.

[another cricket]

He told psychiatrists he heard voices and a woman called Jennifer had guided his arm to attack Mr Myers.

It was jinn not Jennifer. He probably failed to recite the proper prayers before entering a toilet

Is it me or is the wording of this article rather strange?

a.cricket

[swarthyguy]

strange isn't me the article of wording to the.

[CARepubGal]

Good point. Can we dip the blade in pig blood? Or Pig fat?

[SJackson]

KH, thanks for the ping.

*bang_list, news from a gun free, soon to be knife free, risk free society, a little off topic perhaps, but not much.

[facedown]

...as passengers pleaded for the 253 bus to stop.

What is wrong with these people?!!! He only had one working leg - kneecap him in the good one and down he goes. Throw stuff at him, trip him, roll up a magazine, newpaper, whatever, and whack him in the bridge of the nose. A quick right hook to the temple. ANYTHING TO STOP HIM!

Pleading to the driver to stop the bus is in the categaory of "Teacher, teacher Bobby's throwing spitballs at me - make him stop!"...

Wimps. What if Todd Beamer, et al, were like this? Oh please Mr. Pilot, land the plane.

Well Todd, et al, landed the plane themselves alright.

LET'S ROLL!!!

[sheik yerbouty]

A picture is indeed, worth a thousand words!

[knighthawk]

That is Europe you know. People do not help eachother (it must be because Europaans are so much more sophisticated and all). It's a big problem in the Netherlands too. When some one gets beaten up, people just pretend it's not happening and walk by. I can't really blame them, because if you beat up a criminal who is beating up some one, you will be the one arrested and brought to court. Criminals have far more rights than ordinary people thanks to the 'progressives' (leftists scum/liberals).

It's so bad the government actualy has commercials asking people not to abandon the victim, but rather wait until they beat him up, call for an ambulance (police is too busy to show up because they are hunting down people who exeed the speed-limit a few miles an hour) and give the victim comfort.

In many US states this guy would have been shot up 20 times over after he pulled the knife.

[ZULU]

How about justice western style? I say - String the bastard up!

[facedown]

In many US states this guy would have been shot up 20 times over after he pulled the knife.

In some places you're absolutely right. Unfortunately, we have areas of liberal scourge as well. You may remember that a guy pulled out a gun on a Long Island train some years ago and started shooting people. He was reloading the gun for the second time before some passengers finally jumped him and stopped the shooting.

Liberalism is a threat to us all.

As harpseal would say: Stay safe. Stay armed. (Yorktown.)

[swarthyguy]

>>>When some one gets beaten up, people just pretend it's not happening and walk by.

You are right. I have experienced this myself in London.

[Post Toasties]

He told psychiatrists he heard voices and a woman called Jennifer had guided his arm to attack Mr Myers. The jury found him not guilty of attempted murder by reason of insanity.

The court was told that Ouldeddine was a one-legged high jumper who came to Britain in 1998 for the Paralympics in Birmingham. After his arrest, Ouldeddine had told officers: "Israel are the murderers. They kill women and children, so I stabbed him."

Insanity? What insanity? Don't Westerners know that hearing voices and believing that they are surrounded by demons which need to be opposed, placated or avoided is the norm for really religious Muslims?

Too bad this nutter didn't offer the Jew a choice of weapons. Then he could have selected an ass kicking contest.

[MonroeDNA]

I weep for Britain, of which stock I come from.

Britain, I know not thee. My ancestors weep, too. You sent such good stock as General Monroe.

How did you let this come to be?

In "American," what happened to the spine and fortitude which was transferred to us here in the former colonies?

Where is the grit, and toughness I and my folks inherited from you? Where did it go? Was it piece by piece? Election by election? Did you get too tired to fight?

Why is it that you can't legaly defend yourselves from robbery? I don't understand. What happened?

Why do you imprison people who defend themselves against robbers? What happened?

You used to be for the rights of individuals, and backed whatever force was needed to ensure common peace.

Today, your crime rates are the joke of civilized peoples. They are higher by far, than the US, and your pride is gone in the process. I can walk the streets of any Florida neighborhood, more safely than you can walk the streets of London. Because I can fight back. You can't.

Are you proud of being sheep, led to the slaughter? Do you like the fact that your daughter can be raped, but you can't kill the guy while it is going on? Do you like that you can't own a .22, to shoot your daughter's rapist? Do you like that if you bash his head in, you will go to jail?

Do you like being eunichs? Your collective testicles have been removed. That's American language, just so you know. It's also the truth.

We appreciate your support in this time of war. But we are wondering how you came to be such subjugated people.


Out of my cold, dead, hands.

[knighthawk]

Thanks to socialism/lefties the country was wrecked. Their goal is to turn people into willing slaves. Europeans forgot how it is to fight for your freedom and right of speech.

[BeAllYouCanBe]

"Their goal is to turn people into willing slaves."

It is amazing that the communist have put so much energy over the last 100 years in making people subservient only to find that they have been preparing the people for Islam -- which after all is -- SUBMISSION!

It is almost as if the devil had the grandest plan an it is working.

I'm not a bible literalist but man this is demonic.