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MS May Be Sexually Transmitted - Doctor
REUTERS via AOL ^ | 9/18/02 | Unsigned

Posted on 09/18/2002 7:03:12 PM PDT by IncPen

LONDON (Reuters) - Multiple sclerosis, a common disease of the central nervous system, could be sexually transmitted, a British scientist said Thursday.

Dr. Christopher Hawkes, of London's Institute of Neurology, said his analysis of published data on the illness that affects about a million people worldwide, supports the hypothesis.

Experts however criticized his report saying there was no evidence to support it.

"I propose that multiple sclerosis (MS) is a sexually transmitted infection acquired principally during adolescence and mainly from infected but not necessarily symptomatic males," he said in a report in Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery and Psychiatry.

Hawkes said it may not be the only cause of the neurological disorder but some people may have an inherited susceptibility to a sexually transmitted infectious agent.

But the chief executive of the Multiple Sclerosis Society in Britain criticized the report, saying there is no direct evidence for sexual transmission.

"We share the view that this is pure speculation based on interpretation of data collected for other reasons," the society's Mike O'Donovan said in a statement.

Alastair Compston, a professor of neurology at Cambridge University, described the report as having little scientific value because it contains no new facts.

"The hypothesis falls down quickly and repeatedly in the face of known facts," he explained.

Hawkes said migration studies and data on clusters and epidemics support the hypothesis. He noted that epidemics of MS like those in the Faroe Islands, Iceland, the Orkneys and the Shetlands suggest a rise in MS cases after the arrival of military troops.

Higher rates of MS in young, sexually active people and in cultures with more permissive sexual attitudes and drug misusers also support the hypothesis, according to Hawkes.

"This theory provides a testable hypothesis which could be addressed by a case-control study of multiple sclerosis patients and their partners," he added.

MS is a progressive disease in which the myelin sheath that protects the brain and spinal cord is damaged or destroyed. The illness, which is most common in colder countries and is rare in Africa and Asia, usually occurs between 20 and 40 years old.


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KEYWORDS: medicine; ms; poppycock
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1 posted on 09/18/2002 7:03:12 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: IncPen
MS May Be Sexually Transmitted

If that was true, Bill Gates would have gone bankrupt.

Oh, that MS.
2 posted on 09/18/2002 7:11:33 PM PDT by Grig
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To: IncPen
What about crossed-eyes?

Isn't that caused by looking too closely at your one night stand for a lengthy period of time?

But why would one do that anyway, unless you discovered that is was either your wife or your wife's twin sister?
3 posted on 09/18/2002 7:11:49 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: IncPen
My sisters have MS, and I have symtoms of it. My doctor has ordered an MRI for me, my sister already had one. She has a large lesion on her brain. None of us were wild, crazy, sexually active when we were young, and I have been with my husband since I was 19. I think we are in the group that inherits tendency to get it. We all three have lost thyroid function and have other autoimmune problems. Too bad we weren't the wild, fun, party girls. I wish I could say I caught MS from having a good time! </sarcasm>
4 posted on 09/18/2002 7:14:06 PM PDT by buffyt
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To: Vidalia
One night stand? I just checked... we have two upstairs. Go figure...

I should have made a comment when I posted this (if you look at my keywords you'll see what I thought of it)... The world is full of junk science. We just have to point it out.

5 posted on 09/18/2002 7:18:20 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: buffyt
Do you have a lot of dental mercury amalgam in your mouth? That's where I think MS may come from.
6 posted on 09/18/2002 7:19:45 PM PDT by PayrollOffice
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To: buffyt
I'm very sorry to hear that your sisters have it. I hope your symptoms don't worsen!

My cousin has a very bad case, and I always remember all the "silver" in her mouth. It's a very big controversy in the dental profession and has been for about 100 years, IIRC.

I have tons of it my mouth, but no obvious symptoms, though.

7 posted on 09/18/2002 7:26:20 PM PDT by PayrollOffice
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To: buffyt
So sorry to hear about that. God Bless you.

I have a dear friend who I haven't seen in 10 years who has MS. I remember he had shingles at one time, right about when he found out he had MS. I wonder if they could be somehow related? I know that shingles is a virus, like a herpes type. When I saw him last he was getting better after treatment with steroids. I wonder how he is doing now?
8 posted on 09/18/2002 7:27:54 PM PDT by My back yard
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To: IncPen
My apologies, I don't feel comfortable looking into folks upstairs unless given permission...
9 posted on 09/18/2002 7:33:03 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Vidalia
Go ahead and look.

My wife will tell you I don't have much upstairs

: )

10 posted on 09/18/2002 7:37:21 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: IncPen
Then for sure I ain't a gonna even take the offer...

good fun...
11 posted on 09/18/2002 7:47:05 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: buffyt
Check into bee sting therapy; some people swear by it.
12 posted on 09/18/2002 8:18:31 PM PDT by Indrid Cold
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To: buffyt
buffy, this report is junk science. I know three elderly nuns who have MS....lifelong virgins. I'm sure Annette Funicello was a wild and crazy Mousketeer!
13 posted on 09/18/2002 8:22:06 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Palladin
Palladin, why are you and I always drawn to the same threads? LOL!!
14 posted on 09/18/2002 8:24:46 PM PDT by freedox
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To: freedox
You are my bad twin!
15 posted on 09/18/2002 8:26:02 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: buffyt
My prayers for your sister and family.
16 posted on 09/18/2002 8:29:39 PM PDT by fatima
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To: IncPen
You are all wrong and full of crap because none of you have studied this disease.

There are probably at least 20 pathogens that will cause MS symptoms. Several clinics have treated MS successfully with antibiotics with between 25 and 45% success rates. Other people have been cured through adult revaccinations for child diseases and the new Chickenpox vaccine with 30% success rates. Fungus has been documented and completely overlooked in treatment.

For the record MS is Sub-acute Chronic Stealth Infection of meningitis/encephalitis origin.

I am working on this data and have six hypothetical strategies ready to go. The first two are treatment with Diflucan and HHV6/Chickenpox vaccination. The third treatment uses Penicillin VK/Augmentin/Rifampin only if patient is absent positive test for Clostridium species. Fourth formula involves Levaquin/Doxicycline/Azithromycin. Fifth formula involves Flagyl/TMP-SMX. Sixth formula is still under consideration.

These formulas are based on safety first and expected pathagen population distribution numbers second. Cost is not a consideration with MS patients because of severity of prognosis.

There are at least four pathogens whose primary means of transmission is sexual and can be easily overlooked because they are stealth in nature. They are known to cause plaques in various locations of the body.

If you want more information on dosages and substantiating documents you can pay me $30 for the proof and $150 for the formulas and treatment strategies.


17 posted on 9/19/02 9:28 AM Pacific by MedicalMess
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To: SarahW

I have anylosing spondylitis. It is caused by Clostridium in my case. Yours is probably the same. It responds to Flagyl antibiotic although in a wierd way. It is a secondary infection to pneumonia so if you get contaminated by Klebsiellia from fecal material you also pick up the Clostridium from the gut. Getting the Klebsiella pneumonia changes the lung environment to anaerobic and allows the Clostridium to penetrate into the blood and lymph systems. I bet you have confirmed HLA-B27 gene tests which is not necessarily a family genetic test because Klebsiella has the same gene sequence.

I have the spondyloarthropathy but am NOT, repeat NOT HLA-B27 positive. My pneumonia was induced by inhaling a pretzel stick by accident at age three and a half. The Clostridium was present in the family in the form of my mother's Type II Diabetes. Saint Judes Hospital for Children has confirmed a 100% past history infection with pneumonia in all children with ankylosing spondylitis which is why they're off hop-scotching around looking at pneumonia pathogens instead of the environment that pneumonia creates which allows an infection to get in that never could otherwise.

My dad probably got it when he suffered a collapsed lung. His entire spine was fused by the time he died.


18 posted on 9/19/02 9:53 AM Pacific by MedicalMess
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Diseases are easily spread only if they don't kill or disable their hosts too fast. Hence MS, having a gestation period of decades, would be easily spread. So the question would be, "If indeed some ST agent contributes to the development of MS, what else is necessary for MS to develop?"


Think Clostridium species, Chlamydia species and fungus such as Candidias and Cryptococcus. They have all been seen on the brain in acute form and they all cause plaques and abscesses. This is only six of the more than twenty suspects of MS. Almost all people could mound an immune defense so these infections are far more likely to be seen as sub-acute or even assymptomatic.


19 posted on 9/19/02 10:11 AM Pacific by MedicalMess
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18 posted on 09/19/2002 10:18:59 AM PDT by MedicalMess
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To: MedicalMess
mound = mount
19 posted on 09/19/2002 10:20:36 AM PDT by MedicalMess
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To: MedicalMess
You are all wrong and full of crap because none of you have studied this disease.

That's all I needed to read of your reply.

20 posted on 09/19/2002 10:51:42 AM PDT by IncPen
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