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Scientists Claim Antimatter Breakthrough
Ananova ^ | 9-18-2002

Posted on 09/18/2002 11:47:20 AM PDT by blam

Scientists claim antimatter breakthrough

Scientists have announced the first large-scale production of antimatter.

A team based at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research in Geneva say they have developed a large amount of the substance.

Antimatter is a reverse form of ordinary matter. When the two kinds of matter meet they annihilate each other in an enormous burst of energy.

It's this process which provides the power source for Starship Enterprise in its film and TV space adventures.

Physicists have made only very small quantities of antimatter before. But the CERN team say they have made at least 50,000 atoms of anti-hydrogen, the antimatter counterpart of normal hydrogen.

They admit the achievement will not lead to starship-style warp drives - at least not in the foreseeable future.

But it could help scientists answer some of the greatest unsolved mysteries of the universe.

Team member Professor Michael Charlton from the University of Wales at Swansea said: "This is a milestone that has opened up new horizons, to enable scientists to study symmetry in nature and explore the fundamental laws of physics which govern the universe."

He says it will also help scientists address what happened to the antimatter created in the Big Bang.

According to Nature, the CERN scientists used sophisticated electric and magnetic field traps and ultra-low temperatures to generate the anti-atoms.

Story filed: 19:02 Wednesday 18th September 2002


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antihydrogen; antimatter; breakthrough; realscience; scientists; stringtheory
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To: blam
"Mr. Sulu, warp 5..."
41 posted on 09/18/2002 12:24:51 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: HEY4QDEMS
heh heh!
42 posted on 09/18/2002 12:25:02 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: blam
The anti-matter's the easy part. Let's see 'em gin up some dilithium crystals.
43 posted on 09/18/2002 12:25:40 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Terriergal
And this would isolate antimatter from matter... how?

Get ahold of Robert Forward's book Indistinguishable From Magic, which has a nice long chapter on antimatter. Basically, the magnetic field would keep the atoms away from the walls of the container generating the field. The interior is a vacuum.

You should be able to find it at a used bookstore (it's paperback).

44 posted on 09/18/2002 12:29:25 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: blam
Mr. Scott, I need more power!
45 posted on 09/18/2002 12:29:36 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: mhking
Oh, some guy named Ahmed is driving it around with it in a cooler in his trunk...

Too bad he's driving a Pinto :o)

46 posted on 09/18/2002 12:30:06 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: BenLurkin
Would matter/anti-matter reactions create energy? Would it be safer than nuclear power?

Hate to be Clintoneque, but it depends on your meaning of "create". In an antimatter/matter reaction, the entire mass of both sorts of matter is converted to energy, via Einstien's famous E=MC^2. In a fission or even fusion reaction only a very small fraction of the mass of the matter is converted to energy, the matter products of the reaction having very slightly less mass than the original atoms. With matter/antimatter there are no reaction products other than energy, in the form of gamma rays.

Safer than nuclear? Probably not, but since the techology isn't here yet, who can say?

BTW, 50,000 atoms is still a miniscule amount of anti-matter. I don't have time at the moment to run through the calculations to determine how much energy in familiar terms, such as kilowatt hours or tons of TNT, that would be liberated if they were combined with 50,000 normal hydrogen atoms.

47 posted on 09/18/2002 12:37:39 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: BenLurkin
Would matter/anti-matter reactions create energy?

No. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It can only be converted from one form to another.

Matter/anti-matter reactions are a release of energy. Not the creation of it.

Would it be safer than fission? Likely, yes. But only if the reaction can be controlled.

49 posted on 09/18/2002 12:40:25 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Terriergal
The only way to contain antimatter is by some sort of magnetic trap.

And this would isolate antimatter from matter... how?


Uh, magnetic trap in a very very hard vacuum to prevent those random collisions....
50 posted on 09/18/2002 12:40:28 PM PDT by Kozak
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To: blam
"Captain, I cannae giv ye any more powr, the matter-antimatter valve is on the blink!"

But seriously, they found Algore's brain?

51 posted on 09/18/2002 12:46:49 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: blam
But it could help scientists answer some of the greatest unsolved mysteries of the universe.

So they're going to explain why women go to the restroom in groups?

52 posted on 09/18/2002 12:47:37 PM PDT by Steve0113
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To: andy58-in-nh
How long before Algore claims that he invented it and had he been elected, we would all be driving around in matter-antimatter propelled autos?
53 posted on 09/18/2002 12:52:51 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: El Gato
BTW, 50,000 atoms is still a miniscule amount of anti-matter. I don't have time at the moment to run through the calculations to determine how much energy in familiar terms, such as kilowatt hours or tons of TNT, that would be liberated if they were combined with 50,000 normal hydrogen atoms.

Well, my first question is: Are these really anti-atoms, or just anti-protons? If they are anti-atoms, then magnetic containment will fail easily as atoms are electrically neutral. (The magetic moment of the hydrogen atom is way too small to use for containment at any reasonable temperature, IIRC.)

Secondly, let's do some calculations. That number of particles is still only 8.303 X 10-20 moles, a teensy amount. Its mass is only 8.369 X 10-20 grams.

Now, assuming we have a like mass of normal hydrogen atoms, and they're combined and annihilate with 100% efficiency, there will be produced 1.504 X 10-5 J. For comparison, one kWh is equivalent to 3.6 X 106 J, so, our antihydrogen will produce 4.129 X 10-12 kWh; just over four trillionths of a kWh.

54 posted on 09/18/2002 12:55:07 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Redleg Duke
No, No, No... He didn't invent Anti-matter, he invented Doesn't-matter!
55 posted on 09/18/2002 12:55:52 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion
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To: Chemist_Geek
Atoms. Maybe they assembled Hydrogen Isotopes.

I would like to know how they maganed to trap them too.
56 posted on 09/18/2002 1:01:33 PM PDT by SkyRat
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To: Chemist_Geek
"Well, my first question is: Are these really anti-atoms, or just anti-protons?"

Good Distinction. When I was being taught chemistry in high school, I was lead to believe that "matter" was atoms and molecules, and that sub-atomic particles were "something else". I know most people were taught this "fact". Physicists and Chemists generally consider sub-atomic particles and up to be matter, IIRC.
57 posted on 09/18/2002 1:06:17 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion
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To: Poohbah
"HOLD MUH BEER"

Sometimes you're a very funny guy, Poobster!

This is one of those times. ;^)

58 posted on 09/18/2002 1:09:26 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Poohbah
Indistinguishable From Magic

Available from www.barnesandnoble.com

Robert L. Forward coauthored another book "Mirror Matter: Pioneering Antimatter Physics", which is not available on B&N but they do list it.

Another book they list and carry is "Antimatter: The Ultimate Mirror" by Gordon Fraser

59 posted on 09/18/2002 1:22:57 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Dark Nerd
firing up an antimatter rocket on the surface would incinerate everything for miles around with heat, x-rays, and gamma rays.

Not necessarily. It depends on how the photons (X and gamma rays) are converted to the velocity of the reaction mass. It should be a fairly clean reaction, since no neutrons would be produced to induce radioactivity and there are no products of the reaction, other than the photons. If the ammount of matter involved in the reaction were not all that large, say nothing more than a few kilotons energy equivalent, you could have an Orion type ship, with no fallout. Old Bang Bang (Orion) had the problem of using nuclear fission explosives as it's propulsion method. Not a clean reaction, but might have been practical nonetheless if not for the atomospheric test ban treaty.

60 posted on 09/18/2002 1:30:37 PM PDT by El Gato
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