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Orthodox Libertarianism is illogical, undefined libertarianism is meaningless.

So Roscoe, can one be Conservative, but not a member of the Conservative party? (An actual political party...although pretty much tied in hand in hand with the Republican party.) If one is Conservative, but not a member of the Conservative party, does that make them illogical?

Why are we not allowed to believe in a good deal of what the LP stands for, but have major disagreements with a lot of the other stuff the LP stands for? Are you suggesting that if a Conservative doesn't toe the line with the Conservative party, or a Republican doesn't toe the line with the Republican party, they are an "undefined Conservative" or an "undefined Republican"

Once again, Roscoe, you try to bog down the debate with one liners and semantics, because you can't actually make a logical, coherant debate on anything. Pity...