Posted on 09/16/2002 9:32:51 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
If the big 3 would finally break free of their OPEC ties and produce alternative vehicles, they would the same cost or less.
Precisely.
The notion that hydrogen is an "efficient" fuel is pure malarkey.
Unlike most other fuels, it takes more energy to produce hydrogen than one can ever hope to harness by burning it.
They never seem to mention you have to use energy to break down water.
This means using a coal,natural gas or nuke to make hydrogen.
Nukes are by far the cleanest,safest choice. Had we not sabatoged nuclear technology in the 1970's we wouldn't be worried about the Middle East right now.
BINGO! I looked into a "hybrid" when I was looking for a new car. Unfortunately, after doing a little math (my parents were kind enough to send me to private school, so I can do actual additional and subtraction), I found that I would have to drive the car 10+ years to save enough money on gas to justify the increased expense. And that was figuring the average price of gas would be $1.50 a gallon, which it is not in the Midwest (we have this thing called lower taxes here...it's wonderful).
But, the stupid Californians will keep acting stupid. It is their nature and purpose.
The irony is that the only cheap source of hydrogen is the catalytic reformation of hydrocarbons (read: fossil fuels). Still, it is much cleaner than the traditional combustion of hydrocarbons.
Yea, but the cars will be 'clean'......ha ha ha ha ha
We are sorry that we made an error in the editing of this paragraph. The model of this vehicle is not the "Highlander" , it's ...
... the Hindenburg.
I thought that water vapor was a greenhouse gas.
GLOBAL WARMING ALERT! (/sarcasm .. off)
AKA, Mike.
"The first H-bomb ever 'Mike' was exploded at 7.15 am local time on November 1st 1952. The mushroom cloud was 8 miles across and 27 miles high. The canopy was 100 miles wide. Radioactive mud fell out of the sky followed by heavy rain. 80 million tons of earth was vaporised. Mike was the first ever megaton yeild explosion.
They burn coal, oil, or gas to make steam, with much of the heat going up the chimney. They use the steam to spin turbines which turn generators which generate much wasted heat in the process. The spent steam rises from a cooling tower in a giant plume, heating the surrounding atmosphere and/or water in a nearby reservoir. The power from the generators is stepped up in voltage using lossy, heat-generating transformers. They send the power across the countryside through lossy, heat-generating power lines. They step the voltage back down to useable levels at the other end using lossy, heat-generating transformers. They use the power to seperate water into H2 and O2 and wasted heat.
Maybe they should just burn the oil or gas directly in the car. Of course, we know that is a bigger threat to this country than any terrorism.
There's positively oodles of it out there. Most of it, though, is combined with oxygen... To separate them, you need a source of stored energy, which is most easily obtained in the form of coal, petroleum, natural gas, and uranium.
What price considerations does government specify when it sets regulations?
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