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China Poison Case - Hundreds Dead -- Other Locations Poisoned
South China Morning Post ^ | 9-16-02

Posted on 09/16/2002 7:54:03 AM PDT by tallhappy

Below are some articles on the poisoning case in China.

Latest reports in Chinese language media are almost 250 are dead with 1000 posioned. And posioning has taken place in two other places. They think wells were laced with very strong rat poison.

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South China Morning Post

September 16, 2002

SECTION: News; Pg. 7

LENGTH: 482 words

HEADLINE: Residents recall horror of tainted-breakfast tragedy while looking after sick family and friends Sorrow engulfs poison-case town

BYLINE: Josephine Ma

BODY:

Tangshan town residents yesterday struggled to come to terms with the deaths of mainly schoolboys in the Nanjing food poisoning tragedy.

Unconfirmed reports said more than 100 people may have died after eating tainted food for breakfast from a Heshengyuan Soy Milk shop in Nanjing on Saturday.

The victims bought fried dough sticks, sesame cakes and soy bean milk. Most victims were schoolboys at the Zuochang Secondary School and migrant workers from a construction site. Heshengyuan supplied breakfast to the school and many schoolchildren were found sick and vomiting on the campus.

A worker who lives in Yanjia village, 2km from Tangshan town, said a 10-year -old relative died on the spot after eating a fried dough stick.

"Five to six people from my village got killed," he said.

"The youngest is 1.5 years old and the oldest in his 70s.

"It is so terrible. I went to the hospital today and people told me there was blood everywhere in the restaurant and schools where the people were poisoned.

"The poison had to be strong to have killed people that way." There was a lot of speculation about the cause of the tragedy. A spokesman of Nanjing Provincial Government yesterday confirmed that they had found rat poison in the food.

Most food stalls in Tangshan were closed yesterday and residents drank only bottled water.

One fearful resident said: "September 14 is an unlucky date, you see. It could have been chosen for the act."

A housewife said she heard the ambulance sirens throughout yesterday.

"I heard that some people have fallen sick today," she said. "Perhaps it takes time for the poison to have an effect on some people."

Staff of a residential complex in Tangshan said the water supply was stopped for a few hours on Saturday.

A manager told residents in the complex to drink bottled water because he feared tap water could be contaminated. The water supply was restored yesterday.

One of the staff members said: "Three residents in our complex suddenly bled from their noses and mouths only a few minutes after eating breakfast on Saturday. Luckily we acted quickly and sent them to hospitals. I heard they are in a stable condition."

Another Tangshan resident whose brother suffered poisoning returned home late last night but said he was too tired to think about compensation.

"My brother just regained consciousness. He passed out last night Saturday and we rushed him to the hospital," he said.

"I have no time to think about compensation now. I have been in the hospital for so long and I have not eaten yet."

One resident said the situation was now relatively stable, although many residents were busy looking after sick relatives and friends.

"I think people have no time to complain or think about other things now," he said.

"It is hard to say what they will do a few days later."

South China Morning Post

September 16, 2002

SECTION: News; Pg. 1

LENGTH: 605 words

HEADLINE: Rat poison found in food, says government official Manager held as Nanjing toll hits 100'

BYLINE: Bill Savadove in Tangshan, Josephine Ma and Agencies

BODY:

Mainland authorities yesterday placed the manager of a soy milk shop under "police control" as they investigated a mass food poisoning near Nanjing that local reports claim has killed at least 100 people and put hundreds more in hospital.

People in Tangshan, a small industrial town near the eastern industrial city, said most of the victims were schoolchildren and migrant workers who had eaten food supplied by a branch of the Heshengyuan Soy Milk chain.

A Nanjing provincial government spokesman was quoted by TVB as saying rat poison had been found in the food.

No official casualty figure has been announced. Xinhua reported on its Web site on Saturday that 41 had died and later changed that to "a number". The pro-Beijing Ta Kung Pao yesterday quoted local police as saying at least 77 had died by Saturday afternoon and estimated the number of victims had risen to more than 100. Police, Health Ministry officials and local hospitals all declined to comment. A Nanjing government official said the manager of the Heshengyuan store was "under police control" until investigators had established the cause of the poisoning.

The semi-official China News Service reported last night that Ministry of Public Security and Ministry of Health officials were investigating. It did not say if any suspects had been held.

The victims were sent to 10 hospitals in the area. The People's Daily said on its Web site that more than 200 people were being treated and 500 doctors and nurses had been mobilised to treat the victims.

Tangshan residents said the source of the poisoning was likely to be a stall in an alley where the breakfast snacks were prepared each morning for the Heshengyuan shop.

State television reported the tragedy last night but gave few details. It showed footage of ambulances and military vehicles ferrying victims to hospitals. Children were shown lying two or three to a bed, while other victims included an elderly man and people in military fatigues.

Last night, a security guard kept watch at the Heshengyuan shop. Police sealed off the stall where the food was prepared and the alley was cordoned off by two police cars. Police stopped any passers-by getting near.

A shopkeeper near the shop said last night that she noticed the problem just after she opened her store on Saturday.

"They the victims were spitting blood. Even if we curse the officials, we can't do anything about it," she said.

Peng Yongqing, who also owns a store next to the outlet, said he saw one elderly man collapse after eating breakfast. "It happened right there in front of my store," he said. "One minute he was sitting there eating and the next he stood up and keeled over. We all thought he was choking."

Mr Peng said the man died on the way to hospital.

Another woman who frequented the store said: "My luck was good on Saturday. If I had eaten there, I would have lost my life."

With a news blackout imposed by the government, residents in Tangshan were left guessing what happened.

"People are saying that someone is jealous about the good business of the shop and put poison in the well," one housewife said. "They the officials have got to tell us what happened. So many innocent people, especially young children, have died and everybody in town is panicking."

On the Web site of the People's Daily, some readers expressed their frustration on a bulletin board. "So many people are dead, but the TV channels are all putting on a show of happiness. Do the news people have no sense of responsibility or pity?" said one.

South China Morning Post

September 16, 2002

SECTION: News; Pg. 7

LENGTH: 277 words

HEADLINE: Deafening silence surrounds outbreak

BYLINE: Josephine Ma

BODY:

Official media have remained secretive about the death toll from the Tangshan tragedy, and officials, hospital workers and even teachers have refused to say much about the incident.

Although state newspapers and television have reported on the poisoning, no report has specified or even attempted to estimate the number killed. Most state papers, even the relatively outspoken ones, only carried the Xinhua report that said "a lot of people were killed", without giving a specific number. The agency reported a few hours after the outbreak that at least 41 people had been killed, but then retracted the report.

Reports on state media highlighted only the rescue efforts, such as a team of 35 experts being despatched to hospitals.

A teacher at the Zuochang Secondary School, which several dozen of the poisoned students attended, was interrupted by an unidentified man on another telephone line when she was being interviewed by phone yesterday.

Police and hospital workers all declined to comment.

Mainland online chat rooms, even the chat room of the official People's Daily Web site, were swamped with messages from angry Internet surfers who called for the truth to be revealed, particularly basic information such as the death toll.

Many also complained that their messages were being deleted by the chat-room operators.

"What is the implication of the limited coverage of the Nanjing poisoning incident?" a message posted on the People's Daily Web site asked.

"It implies that it is time to talk about politics, overall well-being of the big situation , and stability of the country," another surfer responded.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; nanjing; poison; zhejiang
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To: cake_crumb
I think that we need a rally were we can laugh at the Chinese dead and dying. It would really piss them off!

(Unfortunalty, I think that we are the kind of people who wouldn't do that sort of thing, based on the understandable pity and compassion which we tend to have. Makes us weak in the propaganda war.)
61 posted on 09/16/2002 2:50:36 PM PDT by M. T. Cicero II
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To: KineticKitty
Nice Kitty.
62 posted on 09/16/2002 2:52:31 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: OldFriend; kinghorse
China has been dealing with their overpopulation issues in various ways. Now this mysterious outbreak.....

No not at all, I am just suggesting that if someone's is going to hint or blame the Chinese government of doing this because of over population, that it makes no sense for the Chinese government to reduce a population of over 1 billion, by poisoning a few hundred.

63 posted on 09/16/2002 3:07:29 PM PDT by KineticKitty
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To: kinghorse
You might get a different impression out of my #47 post if you read the post I was responding to first.(#19)
64 posted on 09/16/2002 3:12:51 PM PDT by KineticKitty
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To: L,TOWM
One could eliminate the warfarin and brodifacoum forms of rat poison, they take time to tie up the vitamin K1 clotting factors and result in death days later from bleeding. The other major rat poison used in the US would cause seizures in a toxic situation. Zinc phosphide poisoning symptoms are consistant with those described along with the rapid mortality. Sodium flouride and ethylene glycol are also possibilities. Arsenicals and heavy metals have symptoms that are consistant with those described. Strychnine, organophosphates, carbamates, and neurotoxins can be eliminated from the descriptions.

IMHO and personal experience, the agent most likely would be zinc phosphide.

65 posted on 09/16/2002 8:34:16 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug
What's the mechanism of action of zinc phosphide?

Coumadin analogues create signs and symptoms consistent with the news story (interference with the natural coagulation cascade).

Your point about seizures is a good one, but perhaps the media is not saavy to such things. What arguments were floated to eliminate the other tickets.

66 posted on 09/16/2002 9:16:43 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
Zn3P2 causes vomiting, severe abdominal pain, bloat, hyperesthesia, and in the last agonal moments, convulsions. As the poison is digested there is more phosphine released and the only treatment is NaHco3 orally. Strichnyne, OP, Carbamates kill by convulsions (cholinesterase inhibitors). Coumadin analogues do not show toxicity for at least 24-48 hours, this poison acted within hours.

We need a little more information to identify the culprit but bets are on NaF or Zn3P2.

67 posted on 09/17/2002 6:40:35 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: bonesmccoy
Another article that was published by the Sun in England cited the toxin as KCN. That is not a common rat poison in the US by any means. Being a CN would explain the sudden onset of symptoms.
68 posted on 09/17/2002 1:19:38 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug; bonesmccoy; tallhappy; Lokibob; Mitchell; Dog Gone
Update:

Man Confesses to China Rat Poison Case - State TV

69 posted on 09/17/2002 3:38:45 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: vetvetdoug
Shermy's link says that the poison was Du Shu Qiang, made with tetramine.
70 posted on 09/17/2002 3:49:42 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Mitchell
It's happening all over the world mitch
71 posted on 09/17/2002 3:58:32 PM PDT by philetus
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To: Shermy
Confessions announced by the ChiComs aren't worth much.
72 posted on 09/17/2002 4:27:27 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Do these poisonings indicate more radical Chicom population control methods?
73 posted on 09/17/2002 6:16:06 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Paulus Invictus
Do these poisonings indicate more radical Chicom population control methods?

I don't think that. What it does mean is hard to say.

Talk is because a number of those dead were soldiers it may have been an attack of some sort.

I really doubt the shopkeeper story. It could be, but it is such SOP for the ChiComs in major crimes that can't be hidden.

Chinese press (outside China of course) are also talking about the political ramifications. They are saying this hurts Hu Jintao because his contingent are the authorities in this area.

74 posted on 09/17/2002 8:45:32 PM PDT by tallhappy
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