[jwalsh07]

I'm a defeatist? LOL

You choose to ignore political reality. You choose to ignore what a veto means. A veto means lots and lots of press coverage. A veto is the Constitutional method for bringing an issue to the public eye. Bush will win and he may win without a veto ever being needed.

[Polonius]

I very much hope you're right, but it's not a win if Bush doesn't get what he set out for in the end.