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Reno's camp may sue over touch screens used in Florida primary
Knight-Ridder ^ | 9/14/02 | PETER WALLSTEN AND LESLEY CLARK

Posted on 09/15/2002 1:00:52 PM PDT by plain talk

MIAMI - (KRT) - Janet Reno's campaign for governor is trying to build a sweeping case against the now-infamous touch-screen voting machines that campaign officials believe may be responsible for Reno losing the Democratic nomination. The case, summarized in a draft document obtained by The Herald, would not be used to challenge the results of last week's election, even if Bill McBride is certified Tuesday as the nominee, campaign officials said Saturday.

Instead, the evidence would become part of a larger effort to put the blame for Florida's latest election fiasco at the feet of Gov. Jeb Bush and the election reform law he signed with great fanfare last year. "What we're doing is far more important than whoever the nominee is," said Reno campaign manager Mo Elleithee.

According to the draft document, headlined "Suspected Problems with Florida's Electronic Touch-Screen Voting Machines," the campaign has consulted with an expert who has studied the machines in use.

Among the allegations: touch-screen machines suffer from the buildup of smudges as more people vote that create inaccuracies, some voters saw the wrong candidate's name light up when they touched the screen, many machines may not have properly calculated votes, and some machines had more than the typical percentage of ballots without a vote in a governor's race.

Election Systems and Software, the company that manufactures the iVotronic machines used in Miami-Dade and Broward counties, could not be reached late Saturday. Last week, ES&S said in a statement that its machines "accurately captured 100 percent of the votes which were cast. No votes were lost or not counted."

Eleven counties in Florida that used the iVotronic equipment Tuesday, but only Miami-Dade and Broward had serious problems. The election supervisors in the four counties that systems identical to those in Miami-Dade and Broward told The Herald that their elections went smoothly.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; reno; votestealing
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Didn't see this specific article posted. If so, my apologies. I have a Triton keyboard with a touch-screen. I've been using it a lot over the last few years and haven't had any problems with the touch screen. Hard to believe these brand new touch screens could already be faulty. Of course maybe my hands are not as filty as those South Florida democrats.
1 posted on 09/15/2002 1:00:52 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
At first, I thought this was an article from 'The Onion'......I can't believe these Dems are such sore losers.....

Reno should get in her little red truck (take Shalala with her) and head out towards Martin SHeens house...and stay there.

They are complaining about smudges?!?!? What a crock.

2 posted on 09/15/2002 1:06:43 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: plain talk
The ONLY way around this is from Democrats to have
four votes compared to all others. Maybe THAT will satisfy
their needs which never seem to get met.
3 posted on 09/15/2002 1:08:33 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: plain talk
They are just trying to remind dems of the 2000 election and try to make up something against Jeb. I don't think it will work. Floridians are getting upset with them ffor the publicity.
4 posted on 09/15/2002 1:09:29 PM PDT by not-alone
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To: plain talk
You beat me as I was adding the below comments to my posting. Anybody here to tell me how to remove mine so that there is only one thread?

... part of a larger effort to put the blame for Florida's latest election fiasco at the feet of Gov. Jeb Bush ... But the strategy of making election reform an issue to use against Bush - specifically targeting the voting equipment - is designed to remind loyal Democrats of their frustration after the contested 2000 presidential election in which Bush's brother narrowly won the White House. By raising a challenge with similar themes - "smudge buildup" and "inadequate calibration" replaces "chad buildup" and the "hanging chad" - Democrats could win some points.

I suppose that this could be interpreted as a mark of the Dim-wit-rats' desperation, but I can just see the media crawling all over this. I encountered an obviously die-hard Dim the other day who was positive that JEB Bush was responsible for every evil short of WTC's construction short-comings!

Considering that the 2 counties with the most problems have their Supervisor of Election Offices controlled by Dim-wit-rats, and that they have had 2 years and much state money provided to fix any teething problems and that the State offered warnings and help several months ago to both Rep.s and Dem.s and the Florida Counties, this just FROSTS ME completely.

5 posted on 09/15/2002 1:12:39 PM PDT by SES1066
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To: plain talk
Among the allegations: touch-screen machines suffer from the buildup of smudges as more people vote that create inaccuracies,

The things worked in every other county but three. Back in Illinois the Democratic machine would give out tickets to free chicken dinners to any voter pledging to vote democrat. Maybe they did that down in south Florida and the grease built up on the touch screens, LOL. Or, the voters shoook the hands of a democrat who's had his palms greased with bribes so many times that the slime transferred to the voters.

some voters saw the wrong candidate's name light up when they touched the screen,

Let me guess... did Pat Buchanan somehow get listed? Did his name distract Reno's voters?

many machines may not have properly calculated votes,

Those were the ones invented by Algore.... the ones that calculate by using the axioms and corollaries of FUZZY MATH.

and some machines had more than the typical percentage of ballots without a vote in a governor's race.

Well, what is the 'typical percentage' in a governor's race? Did anyone notice that in prior years there were more ballots than there were voters ...and that's why there were fewer than normal votes for governor in this year's governor's race?

6 posted on 09/15/2002 1:21:09 PM PDT by piasa
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And how come they don't explain why some of the machines weren't even turned on?

Someone should check the electric outlets at the polls... either the election judges were too stupid to plug the machines in, or someone rigged the outlets. In that part of the state I can believe both possibilities.

7 posted on 09/15/2002 1:24:22 PM PDT by piasa
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To: plain talk
Wow! Janetzilla is really on a rampage. Everyone had better lock up their kids and install extra fire extinguishers in the day cares.
8 posted on 09/15/2002 1:24:31 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: piasa
Did I or did I not hear that the DEMOCRATS are the one who DEMANDED these machines? Didn't they PICK THEM THEMSELVES?

And how, pray tell, do SMUDGES get on machines that nobody can figure out how to TURN ON????

9 posted on 09/15/2002 1:27:25 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: plain talk
First they don't like the paper ballot that their fellow Democrat created for the 2000 election, now they don't like the voting machines-- which everyone was screaming for after the election. You can't please some people.
10 posted on 09/15/2002 1:32:44 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Howlin
Isn't it kinda divine justice that the party of dumbing down the schools should have a constituency too dumb to punch a piece of paper or touch a screen?
11 posted on 09/15/2002 1:37:35 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Clara Lou
I bet a lot of these people would have no trouble cashing a government handout check.
12 posted on 09/15/2002 1:38:29 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: plain talk
: touch-screen machines suffer from the buildup of smudges

Have they ever heard of Windex? Seriously wondering if Dems in Florida should be allowed to vote. It seems to stress them out in a major way.

13 posted on 09/15/2002 1:46:11 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: McLynnan
Now I've been smiling lately, thinking about the good things already here
And I believed it would be, something good is here to stay

Oh BEAST* train crashing louder
Crash on the BEAST train
Come on crashing BEAST train
Yes, BEAST train crashing harder

losers jump upon the BEAST train
Come losers all onboard the BEAST train

* peace train...cat stevens
14 posted on 09/15/2002 1:49:00 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Howlin
And how, pray tell, do SMUDGES get on machines that nobody can figure out how to TURN ON????

Don't try to bring common sense into this equation, lol.

15 posted on 09/15/2002 1:51:55 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Paul Atreides
Paul, when I went last week, I just laughed and laughed...on our ballots, there are TWO DOTS beside each name....and to vote, they give you a SHARPIE and you have to draw a line between the TWO DOTS next to the candidate you want to vote for. TWO DAMN DOTS!
16 posted on 09/15/2002 1:52:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Ha! You know someone is an idiot when he/she cannot connect the dots! I bet if you gave them a complex route to take to get a government handout check, they wouldn't have a problem.
17 posted on 09/15/2002 1:55:16 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Right, like somebody said, they can play 10 cards of Bingo at once, but can't point!
18 posted on 09/15/2002 1:56:59 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: McLynnan
Well, maybe that's our problem......we're too sensical (is that a word?).
19 posted on 09/15/2002 1:57:32 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I bet they could screw up a voice vote. "But, but, but....I meant to say Reno, but it came out 'McBride'."
20 posted on 09/15/2002 1:59:24 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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