OK.
You may wish to try to exaggerate my statements to help your argument
No, I don't mean to exaggerate your statements. I saw your second statement as implying the conclusion that since you hadn't encountered any independent parishes that are in communion with [the Pope], that there aren't any. (See response above.)
Do you know of a single parish you’d like to offer, that claims independent status, is not actively negotiating to return, and yet you think is not schismatic? How about ones that are negotiating to return?
I know of one independent parish that is actively negotiating with the local ordinary and is not schismatic. I will be glad to FReepmail you the information, but I'm not going to post it on a public forum.
I believe he has recognized the achievement and effort of many people, many of whom are not in communion with him.
Now who's "twisting words"? I asked "What if the Pope himself recognizes the achevement and effort of this [Catholic] priest?" Does the Pope recognize the achievement and effort as a Catholic priest of those who are not in communion with him? I doubt it.
If the pastor is working on regularizing the situation my normal course would be to withhold comment on him.
Since you don't know how many pastors of independent parishes may be working toward regularizing their situation, it is at least slightly inconsistent for you to choose to not follow your normal course.
I disagree.
If the difference between right and wrong was always easy to distinguish, then we wouldn't need moral theologians.
I know of one independent parish that is actively negotiating with the local ordinary and is not schismatic. I will be glad to FReepmail you the information, but I'm not going to post it on a public forum.Please freepermail me. I am curious though, if the priest is still not regularized, why is he not schismatic? I think I would agree that one could suggest he no longer has the schismatic mentality, depending on what he was asking for in the negotiations, but it seems to me that the issue is at least vague.
Now who's "twisting words"? I asked "What if the Pope himself recognizes the achevement and effort of this [Catholic] priest?" Does the Pope recognize the achievement and effort as a Catholic priest of those who are not in communion with him? I doubt it.You didn’t say as a Catholic priest, so I didn’t understand that, sorry. What did the Pope say?
No. If I know that the person is taking steps then there is evidence that he may or may not be planning to stay schismatic. If there is no evidence to the contrary though, it is my normal course to assume one who acts outside of the Church’s communion is in fact outside it. I also don’t know what Orthodox priests, Lutheran ministers, etc. are working towards entering the Church, but I regard them as schismatic (as they regard me) because all the evidence points in that direction.If the pastor is working on regularizing the situation my normal course would be to withhold comment on him.Since you don't know how many pastors of independent parishes may be working toward regularizing their situation, it is at least slightly inconsistent for you to choose to not follow your normal course.
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