Oh, and the obligatory sarcasm - remember, it's a religion of peace.
Regards, Ivan
Posted on 09/12/2002 6:36:13 AM PDT by MadIvan
An extremist Muslim cleric has warned that Britain could be hit by a wave of suicide bombings if it takes part in the war against Iraq.
Bring it on, gobshite; you try that crap here and you'll have your head handed back to you. - Ivan
Self styled "Sheikh" Abu Hamza said Britain has so far escaped such atrocities because it is not seen as an enemy of Muslims.
Funny. We've been shooting a lot of them in Afghanistan - Ivan
But he said that could change if Britain follows the lead of President George Bush and America. "If you were on the agenda, you would see suicide bombings everywhere like in Israel," he said. "It is simple. Stay away and preserve your people."
Historically, we don't respond well to threats. Indeed my intial response to him rhymes with duck shoe - Ivan
The cleric, who is the Iman at the controversial Finsbury Park Mosque, claimed that support for Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda has grown massively since 11 September.
If this is supposed to scare me as a Londonder, it has failed. It has made me angry. - Ivan
He claimed: "Before it was 300 to 400 people but the US's attitude means there are now thousands and thousands. There is no structure at the moment but they are still busy."
My response to him now rhymes with eat pit and cry. - Ivan
He said Muslims may face overwhelming odds but remain determined to "defend themselves". He added: "When a big power like the US rapes a small country it may get a few scratches from the victim."
Excuse me, you damn fool, there are 60 odd British victims, loads of American women and children who lie slain - what do you expect us to do, give you the bloody Victoria Cross? - Ivan
The cleric, who is wanted by the authorities in the US, was speaking at the end of a highly contentious conference on the reaction of Muslim fundamentalist groups to 11 September.
Paging President Bush, paging President Bush, please call your friend Tony on the white courtesy phone, and strap this bastard into Old Sparky on arrival - Ivan
Organisers spoke of the "positive outcomes" from the attack, citing the damage to the US economy and claims of a higher level of interest in Islam.
Interest in its thorough defeat, destruction and decimation - Ivan
Although it was claimed that 1,000 people would attend the event, only 200 turned up to hear a series of speeches and lectures.
The police where there. One presumes this was the "hold muh beer" crowd - Ivan
The high-profile event attracted an angry demonstration by 50 members of the British National Party and a counter protest by 30 members of the Anti Nazi League. However fears of disorder proved unfounded amid a massive police operation. There was only one arrest, of a man who was searched and found to be carrying a knife.
Which is weird since the BNP received help from Quadaffi, and doesn't want us to fight in Iraq - Ivan
Nevertheless the event attracted the desired publicity. With worldwide interest triggered by the anniversary of 9.11, the event was attended by camera crews from Russia, Germany, France, Belgium and the Middle East.
Adverse publicity. - Ivan
Local MP Jeremy Corbyn, who briefly joined the crowd outside the mosque, said he had long been unhappy that Abu Hamza had his base of operations there. Mr Corbyn-said: "I have never welcomed his presence here and I am unhappy about many of the statements he has made, as are many others. One should not assume that he speaks for everyone in the mosque."
"It's a religion of peace"? Give it a rest Jeremy. - Ivan
Abu Hamza is one of a number of key radical Islamic leaders who have warned Britain and the US of further terrorist attacks if they go to war with Iraq. He has also made a series of controversial claims that the US was behind the 11 September attacks. He told a rally last month in Trafalgar Square that the al Qaeda network had been blamed for the outrage in "a conspiracy against Muslims".
That's why bin Laden was caught on videotape laughing about it? - Ivan
Scotland Yard is examining links between Abu Hamza and the suspected hijacker Kerim Chatty, 29, who tried to smuggle a gun onto a Ryanair jet bound for Stansted from Sweden last week.
Oh, and the obligatory sarcasm - remember, it's a religion of peace.
Regards, Ivan
Ivan, you are the man!Keep on tellin' it like it is!
My thanks, I'm thoroughly sickened by the thought however that my taxes are probably going towards supporting this utter bastard. We need to toss him out of the country immediately.
Regards, Ivan
Love your editorial comments!
Regards, Ivan
Now, this is from the same crowd that follows the dictate that anyone who is not Muslim is an infidel - and we all know what happens to infidels. In other words - "Fight against us now and we will kill you. Don't fight against us now and we'll kill you later."
Duck shoe, indeed. Good post, Ivan!
It's funny that people tell me I'm so likeable when I'm irritated. ;)
I have a t-shirt I saved from the Gulf war, which your handle reminds me of - it has a picture of an Iraqi flag, an Arab riding a camel and a bullseye trained on both, with the legend:
"I'd fly 5000 miles to smoke a camel"
I wonder if I should wear that in Finsbury Park. ;)
Regards, Ivan
Don't they arrest people who organize bombings in your country anymore? Sounds to me like what was being said was incitement to violence, which last time I looked was against the law on both sides of the pond. As to that "rally," where were all those nice, manly but rough-around-the-edges British soccor fans when you needed them? Your country has been put on alert, and given a clear signal about the intentions of some of those you have so graciously allowed to enter. What are you going to do?
Political correctness would have you and I in prison for saying the same thing in reverse.
I should point out that wasn't a 3 volcano Ivan explosion of rage. More like 1 and a half. ;)
Don't they arrest people who organize bombings in your country anymore? Sounds to me like what was being said was incitement to violence, which last time I looked was against the law on both sides of the pond. As to that "rally," where were all those nice, manly but rough-around-the-edges British soccor fans when you needed them? Your country has been put on alert, and given a clear signal about the intentions of some of those you have so graciously allowed to enter. What are you going to do?
I suggested at the time that we tell Millwall supporters, the roughest fans in the country, that free lager was available at the same site as the pro-Muslim rally. It would have been a sight.
We do have a Prevention of Terrorism Act in force. What Blair should do is call the police and tell them to pick him up on that provision.
Best Regards, Ivan
Where is Edward Longshanks when you need him? These curs should be hanged, drawn and quartered, and their severed heads put on display outside the Tower of London.
But I can say, and I am carefully trying to adhere to the "no violence in posts" rule, that if such an attempt were made by Muslims, that they'd provoke a reaction from the rest of us that they would weep in agony and regret. I would personally take great delight in seeing (and being involved in) these smug bastards get their comeuppance. I am sick of how their ingratitude to the free society that gives them wealth and prosperity beyond the wildest dreams of their goat buggering forebears and then they work to reduce us down to goat buggering levels. Sod them, get them out of here.
Regards, Ivan
I'd settle for "Bloody Mary" Tudor at this point, Alouette.
Regards, Ivan
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