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U.S. partly to blame for attacks: PM
Toronto Star ^ | 2002-09-12 | Tim Harper

Posted on 09/12/2002 5:30:31 AM PDT by Lorenb420

OTTAWA — The perceived greed of the Western world, including the United States, is one of the underlying causes of the horrific terrorist attacks of a year ago, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien says.

In an interview with CBC-TV, which aired last night, Chrétien said the unchecked greed of the West made it lose sight of the consequences of its actions 20 or 30 years into the future.

"I do think the Western world is getting too rich in relation to the poor world,'' Chrétien said.

"We're looked upon as being arrogant, self-satisfied, greedy and with no limits.

"The 11th of September is an occasion for me to realize it even more.''

Power cannot be exercised to the point that it humiliates others, the Prime Minister said in the documentary, in which he also revealed he authorized a Korean passenger jet to be blown out of Canadian skies if it appeared bent on heading for Vancouver or Toronto the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2001.

History is full of stories of power that was not curbed, Chrétien said.

"There is a moment when you have to stop, a moment when you are very powerful,'' he said.

Chrétien, who will speak to the United Nations in New York on Monday, said he made the same point once before to an audience of Wall Street magnates in New York who were complaining to him about Canada maintaining relations with Cuba.

"I said: `When you're powerful like you are, you guys, this is the time to be nice.' That's one of the problems. You cannot exercise your power to the point of humiliation for the others," Chrétien said.

"The Western world, not only the Americans, but the Western world has to realize because they are human beings, too.

"There are long-term consequences if you don't look hard at the reality in 10 or 20 or 30 years from now.''

The CBC documentary also shed new light on a tense landing of a Korean Air passenger jet in Whitehorse in the Yukon.

The plane was believed to have been hijacked and the drama unfolded only hours after four hijacked planes south of the border unleashed their carnage.

Chrétien said he knew he was faced with a decision that he might have to regret for the rest of his life. "If there is a plane, and they tell you there is a plane that can go and land in Toronto and kill thousands of people, you have no choice,'' he said. "So you say you have no choice, you have to do it. Of course, I would have been responsible for killing 300 people, but it's better ... you have no choice.''

The Korean 747, with 300 passengers aboard, had radioed that it had been hijacked.

Chrétien allowed American fighter pilots to trail the passenger jet because Canadian CF-18s based in Inuvik could not catch up to it.

The Prime Minister said he authorized the plane to be shot down if it showed any "hostile'' movements, but stipulated that the decision be made by him, not the U.S. pilots. American authorities refused to allow the plane to land in Alaska. They told Canadian NORAD (North American Aerospace Defence) Brig.-Gen Angus Watt that the plane was being diverted into Canadian airspace.

In the chaos of Sept. 11, it was feared the plane would head down the west coast toward Vancouver.

"They explained to me the situation. They could not communicate with this plane and they didn't know where it was going,'' Chrétien told the CBC's Peter Mansbridge. "So he (Watt) said `we might have to shoot it down.'

"And I said, `yes, if you think they are terrorists, I said, you call me again but be ready to shoot it down'

"So, I authorized it in principle, yes. It's kind of scary when you know this plane, with hundreds of people, and you have call a decision like that.''

The plane ultimately landed without incident in Whitehorse. The radio dispatch was blamed on language confusion.

Chrétien also told the CBC he feared for his own safety after the RCMP had told him not to leave his home at 24 Sussex Dr. "If they want to get me, it's easy,'' Chrétien said he thought at the time.

He told his wife Aline to leave the official residence and head to another residence at Harrington Lake.

She refused.

Transport Minister David Collenette also revealed that in deciding to divert all Canadian air traffic to the east coast, he was concerned about keeping jets away from Toronto and Montreal because Ottawa had reports that as many as 12 hijacked jets could still be in the air. For a time, one of the potential hijacks was believed headed for Hamilton.

Collenette said he assumed other attacks were still planned and that the planes would not go back to New York, making a Canadian attack a possibility.

"I remember thinking a plane could be coming here,'' Collenette said.

Finance Minister John Manley, who was foreign affairs minister at the time, received the news aboard a commercial flight from Frankfurt to Toronto. He told the CBC he was informed of what had happened by Lufthansa flight attendants and his first fear was the possibility that terrorists had entered the United States from Canada.


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: terrorism
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1 posted on 09/12/2002 5:30:31 AM PDT by Lorenb420
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To: Lorenb420
The perceived greed of the Western world, including the United States, is one of the underlying causes of the horrific terrorist attacks of a year ago, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien says.

NONSENSE!

My wife had an interesting insight yesterday: While watching CBS news explain to us how we had brought the 9/11 attacks upon ourselves, she commented on the similarity between anti-Americanism, and anti-Semitism. She felt that both sentiments were nothing more that institutionalized envy. That the success of Jews in Europe and the middle east is the “root cause” (if you will forgive the liberal language) of anti-Semitism, and that the success of Americans on the global stage is the “root-cause” of anti-Americanism.

And that the degree to which we are hated is dictated by the difference between our level of success, and the success level of the envier. Thus the English find us tolerable if annoying, the French find us to be insufferable and arrogant, and the Arabs find us to be the great Satan.

She also saw a parrallel between the sincere (albeit temporary) outpouring of affection for the US in Europe last year, and the temporary outpouring of sympathy for Jews in Europe after the Holocaust. (I don’t mean to equate the deaths of 3000 with several million, but you get the idea)

Since envy is not a sin I’m particularly prone to, her thought was quite the revelation to me. Her conclusion seems obvious enough. But the question I have is: If success leads to envy, and envy to the sort of institutionalized envy of anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism, then maybe we really did bring it on ourselves. But given the conscious choice, would we really have it any other way?

And if we know that to succeed further is to incur the wrath of the least …lets call them the least influential… then should our foreign policy change to reflect that? Do you think this is an argument for imposing a PAX AMERICANUS?

2 posted on 09/12/2002 5:33:31 AM PDT by tcostell
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To: tcostell
That is a very insightful analysis that your wife came up with. Thanks for sharing that.
3 posted on 09/12/2002 5:37:31 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Lorenb420
There is nothing worse than an ungrateful neighbor. The Canadians have been spared the expense of maintaining a credible defense for years because we, the USA, were willing to provide for their defense. Our reward is to be castigated in their press and by their politicians. I know not all Canadians agree with this tomfoolery but eastern and western Canada seem to be diverging more and more on their view of world politics. Chretien is a weak sister and deserves no Canadian's respect. Flame on!
4 posted on 09/12/2002 5:37:36 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: Lorenb420
Having a lax border policy with our socialist friends to the north probably didn't help much either.
5 posted on 09/12/2002 5:38:11 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: Lorenb420
What a load of CRAP.
6 posted on 09/12/2002 5:39:35 AM PDT by Texbob
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To: Lorenb420
At least the Prime Minister is sincere in his beliefs. He apparently has dedicated his career to making Canada a third world country.
7 posted on 09/12/2002 5:47:29 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
At least the Prime Minister is sincere in his beliefs. He apparently has dedicated his career to making Canada a third world country.

At least he is good at something...

8 posted on 09/12/2002 5:50:46 AM PDT by ofMagog
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To: Lorenb420
You forgot the left wing hurl alert....

Mike

9 posted on 09/12/2002 5:52:23 AM PDT by MichaelP
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To: Lorenb420
"I do think the Western world is getting too rich in relation to the poor world,'' Chrétien said.

Huh. Some might say that the poor world is staying too poor in relation to the civilized, capitalist world (or even the quasi-capitalist social democracies).

10 posted on 09/12/2002 5:53:17 AM PDT by nravoter
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To: Lorenb420
Bank robbers must love Canada...
11 posted on 09/12/2002 5:54:45 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Lorenb420
["If they want to get me, it's easy,'' Chrétien said he thought at the time. ]

First, I am a Western Canadian.

Second, Mr. Chretian - It wasn't about YOU!!! No one is going to get you (not worth the jail time) Sheesh...Pinch me someone... I need to wake up from this nightmare.

12 posted on 09/12/2002 5:56:08 AM PDT by blastbaby
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To: Lorenb420
If we were just poorer here in America everyone would be better off and we would be loved eh?

What an idiot.
13 posted on 09/12/2002 5:58:09 AM PDT by DB
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To: Lorenb420
Why did the Canadians elect this cretan?
14 posted on 09/12/2002 5:58:16 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Lorenb420
Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien thinks our greed is the reason the terrorists attacked us on 9-11? Good Lord, the man must have a screw loose somewhere; apparently he wasn't informed 15 of the 19 terrorists were Saudi nationals and Saudi Arabia is not exactly a country swimming in poverty. The truth is we were attacked not because we're too rich but because the terrorists hate and fear our values. That's why they're so willing to expend their own lives and I don't think a quest for a better world has anything to do with it. Oh yes and while the leader of our neighbor to the North thinks we'd better cut back on our standard of living so today's Injuns' will finally love us, it appears liberal hypocrisy knows no bounds. In the same interview, the PM admitted authorizing the Royal Canadian Air Force to shoot down any hostile aircraft bound for Vancouver or Toronto on 9-11-2001. For once, I'm proud to be an American and I'm grateful its the USA and not the land of my birth that's rallying civilization against terrorism and Saddam Hussein.
15 posted on 09/12/2002 6:05:27 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: tcostell
PM Chretien is just showing his French lineage. Must be something about the oily language they speak. Very few frogs ever turn into princes.
16 posted on 09/12/2002 6:08:11 AM PDT by Reo
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To: Paleo Conservative
You got something against folks from Crete:)

I think you mean cretin, which is really close to Chretien, now that I think about it...

17 posted on 09/12/2002 6:09:21 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Lorenb420
We will never see the end of this sort of thinking. It's pure envy, coupled to the desire to believe that one's troubles are not of one's own making -- a belief that's provably false about 98% of the time.

There will always be a desire, among the less successful, to attribute their station to the doings of those who have more. Ludwig von Mises commented on this in The Anti-Capitalist Mentality. This is part of the reason that the approval of despotisms will never be extinguished: If Smith's whole life is regulated by a power too large and too strong for him to oppose, then Smith might not have much, but among the things he doesn't have is personal responsibility, a burden he might prefer not to carry.

The great danger for Americans is that we're altogether too ready to accept transferred responsibilities. It's why we police the world, which, though we do it justly and well, isn't really our job to do by any rational standard. It's why we hand out billions each year in "foreign aid," which is always premised on noble motives and always comes back to bite us on the glutei maximi. It's why we're forever seeking the approval of others, which puts those others in charge of our destinies when they can't even manage their own affairs.

A modicum of Randian bird-flipping and a stronger resolve to do only what we know is right, objectively required of us, or in our own personal and national interests would serve us well. Better, at any rate, than further bowing and scraping in assumed but unearned guilt toward the assertions of moral imbeciles like Jean Chretien.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

18 posted on 09/12/2002 6:10:21 AM PDT by fporretto
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To: Mr. Lucky
He apparently has dedicated his career to making Canada a third world country.

Trust me, he's doing everything he possibly can.

19 posted on 09/12/2002 6:23:53 AM PDT by mitchbert
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To: Lorenb420
This is exactly what I've been talking about the last couple of days. (CLICK HERE)

A few people took me to task for my "insensitivity." H*ll, I'm not the one who's "insensitive"; that distinction belongs to people like Prime Minister Cretin here.

Why it's so hard to see that people like this, abroad AND within our own borders, are ALSO part of the problem is beyond me.

20 posted on 09/12/2002 6:24:04 AM PDT by Illbay
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