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To: SoothingDave
Tell me something, why is it that it was too late for the rich man? Just because God is not confined by the constraints of time doesn't mean that we aren't. He set up a salvation plan for a reason. We must believe NOW. If everyone relied on the maybe of a second chance, what would that do to our witness here? Do you feel comfortable suggesting to people that there might be a chance for them later, especially if someone prays on their behalf? Is that what scripture really teaches?

317 posted on 09/11/2002 12:44:32 PM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace
Tell me something, why is it that it was too late for the rich man? Just because God is not confined by the constraints of time doesn't mean that we aren't.

I believe the rich man was in hell, wasn't he? And we know that because God tells us that in the story.

Nobody here is saying that people in hell can get saved later, or that people, after they die, get a second chance.

Those strawmen are easy to conceive of and easy to defeat.

He set up a salvation plan for a reason. We must believe NOW. If everyone relied on the maybe of a second chance, what would that do to our witness here? Do you feel comfortable suggesting to people that there might be a chance for them later, especially if someone prays on their behalf? Is that what scripture really teaches?

Who said anything about a second chance? What we are discussing is the possibilty that someone could repent at the last minute. Could it have happened to someone engaged in a horrible crime? Could it? Would God accept the repentence of someone who truly was sorry?

I think we all bank on that fact, that no matter what we have done, God will accept us if we are truly repentent.

Now, since you yourself seem to understand God not operating in time, follow the idea out there. Don't be afraid.

It means that, inasmuch as prayer for each other helps, we may pray for another to acheive that moment of repentence, and to be accepted by God. And get this! Since we do not know if someone accepts God at the end, we can not discount the idea that maybe they did repent. And since God is outside of time, we may pray even after the subject of our prayers is dead. Not that they find repentence "now," but that they had found repentence "then," before they died.

Terribly complicated, I know, and it is much easier to just damn everyone to hell, but the implications of God being outside of time are there. Don't be afraid.

SD

323 posted on 09/11/2002 1:59:40 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: agrace
Tell me something, why is it that it was too late for the rich man?

Not sure exactly who you are referring to, but aren't you referring to the Lazarus parable? Wasn't the rich man in Hell?
334 posted on 09/11/2002 2:45:03 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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