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Fred on Everything ^
| 09/09/02
| Fred Reed
Posted on 09/09/2002 8:39:47 AM PDT by SBeck
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Wow. Remember Fred is a conservative. Fire away.
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posted on
09/09/2002 8:39:47 AM PDT
by
SBeck
To: SBeck
This guy is an absolute lunatic.
The dead at Ground Zero were not saints? Hundreds of firemen rushed headlong up the stairs of a burning tower, even though they knew another tower had just collapsed. Why? Because they were prepared to sacrifice their lives to save others. That's pretty saintly.
Fred is a "conservative"? No, he's a cowardly defeatist.
If you're not part of the solution - that is, keeping the memory of our dead alive and our resolve to fight strong - then you're part of the problem.
Reed is practically a collaborator. He's certainly not a patriot.
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posted on
09/09/2002 8:51:51 AM PDT
by
wideawake
To: SBeck
I wish I had written this piece. It's on the button.
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posted on
09/09/2002 8:55:13 AM PDT
by
RLK
To: SBeck
I'm not going to fire on Fred !
I don't always agree with him, but most of the time, he hits the nail right on the head. Sometimes, the wood he drives it into ( and that includes us ) gets split, but-more often than not-it's been truly driven !
To: wideawake
Don't you get it?? Where is our resolve to fight? There is no resolve to fight! There's just a bunch of mawkish sentimentality and a herculean effort to avoid offending Muslims, to the point where the San Jose Mercury News publishes a whitewash of Islam in the Family & Religion section on Rosh HaShannah, one of the most important Jewish holidays.
One year after Pearl Harbor we had Rosie the Riveter filling in while our boys were off kicking ass and taking names as they stomped from island to island across the Pacific.
Meanwhile we're debating whether to go after terrorist sympathizers and supporters, and whether to arm our pilots.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:03:28 AM PDT
by
mvpel
To: wideawake
I think you may be over-reacting a bit on this article. He's right about "what are we doing", and spot on about the issues such as not lettings kids even DRAW a picture of a gun.
To: SBeck
Well wallow in mawkishness, and whimper, and humiliate ourselves.
Maybe so, but one can view the observations on Wednesday as marking the official passing of our "period of mourning". I certainly hope it will.
To: wideawake
And you are one of the folks he is talking about!!!!
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:46:53 AM PDT
by
Clifdo
To: SBeck
'Ol Fred does not pull the punches..!!!
He is hitting the nail directly on the head and in a few minutes, the flames will start from the "Yeah Ra Ra" crowd that can't see the forest thru the trees...!!!
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posted on
09/09/2002 10:06:28 AM PDT
by
freddy
To: SBeck
" Ill root for us, but bet on them. The Moslems have got our number. They have the momentum. They appear to rely on what is becoming an international formula for defeating the United States: Dont give the Yanks a point target, and draw the war out until they get bored. Do you reckon its working? " This is the one point where I disagree. I think it's a bad idea to bet on them, because their tactics don't lead to a plausible end game scenario. The fact is that the American public will build up a reserve of hostility towards Islam that will eventually boil over because of some specific event, most likely a WMD deployed on a major American city.
That will not be a good day to be a Muslim in America. Mecca will most likely become a large radioactive crater soon afterwards, and then WWIII begins in earnest.
We've had our Reichstag fire, and soon we will have our Krystallnacht. Mark my words on this one.
To: Billy_bob_bob
...plausible end game scenario. s/b plausible end game VICTORY scenario. OOPS!
To: SBeck
"Quiz: What people have been consistently kicking our teeth in for decades? Chippewas? Latvians? Tibetan monks? Or Moslems?"
bttt
To: EggsAckley; freddy; Clifdo
Oh, I get it. I was less than a mile from the WTC when it happened, and had to locate my loved ones and get them off the island. I walked across the 59th Street bridge with thousands of sobbing New Yorkers.
For some Freepers, perhaps it's all just an affront to America's national dignity and a jumping-off point for a lecture in geopolitics. I lost friends and very nearly lost family. It's more personal for me.
So when Reed flippantly refers to the victims of the atrocity, I have to call attention to the fact that he's a gutless a__hole.
Here are the three facts that Reed has gotten horribly wrong:
(1) The victims of September 11 were not all slobs who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Hundreds of the dead DELIBERATELY placed themselves in harm's way to rescue others - they were some of the bravest and most honorable Americans who have ever lived. Reed can't comprehend this, because he's the kind of guy who'd put on a dress to be in the first lifeboat.
(2) Our assault on al-Qaeda in Afghanistan was not fruitless - I'd like to see a pansy like Reed explain his warped read to the family of Mike Spann. Naysayers like Reed were the first to claim that we'd be fighting the Taliban government for years before giving up - we defeated them in a matter of months from half a world away.
(3) Expressing our sorrow for our dead and mourning their loss is thoroughly human and thoroughly civilized. It's what separates us from the Muslim animals we're fighting. If Muslims want to interpret that as a sign of weakness, I don't much care - I'll let Reed try to impress his hero Bin Laden with his boorish callousness.
Yes, our borders are still Swiss cheese, our new regulations are stupid and fail to address the real problem, our educational infrastructure is still in the hands of psychobabbling Communists and we should be prosecuting the war more ruthlessly. Many commentators have expatiated on these glaring problems far more eloquently than Reed has. And they didn't need to insult the memory of the dead or the prowess of our fighting men to do it.
To: SBeck; niki; RnMomof7; carenot
Fred knocks one out of the park.
*Ping
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posted on
09/09/2002 3:19:23 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: gcruse
Thnaks for the ping.
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posted on
09/09/2002 4:16:44 PM PDT
by
niki
To: gcruse
Time was, this wouldnt have happened. When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, we squashed them. When the Nazis attacked us, we invaded. But that was before Oprah Consciousness. Now the Moslems kill a few thousand people in New York, and the President immediately goes to a mosque. Dont you love it? After Pearl Harbor, did Roosevelt go to a Shinto temple?
The whole thing is surreal. We cant even admit who did it.
Ahhhhh how refreshing to hear the TRUTH...but can America handle it???
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posted on
09/09/2002 5:34:49 PM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
I've always like Fred. Now, I admire him!
Talk about a voice in the wilderness, tho...
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posted on
09/09/2002 5:37:49 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: wideawake
It is one thing to express sympathy and to morn the death of fellow Americans...but they were not heros..they were victims. ( I do acknowlege the bravery of the firemen and police. They are heros everyday ...the ones that died there that day are not greater heros than the ones that died in other fires that year)
I will pray for the families that day...I will sit and remember how it felt...But lets face it we have done NOTHING to stop further attacks . We are afraid of hurting someones feelings...and then we want out southern borders open for political reasons...we have turned into a paper tiger
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posted on
09/09/2002 5:41:29 PM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: SBeck
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posted on
09/09/2002 7:42:20 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: wideawake
Limbaugh commented on his show a week or so ago that each of the 9-11 survivor's families -- not necessarily the cops and fire rescue personnel -- will get an average of something over a million bucks for their loss.
The family of a GI KIA gets around 6 grand! I lament the dead from 9-11 as much as anyone, but there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with THAT picture.
And Fred has the whimpering police state thing spot on.
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