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To: Publius6961
Initial reports have not been encouraging.

That’s an understatement. I’m not talking about an Air Marshal either; I’m talking about training scenarios that use armed pilots during takeover simulations.

People don’t seem to understand the demonstrated fact that if an attacker can get within four to five feet of you in an enclosed space you will never get the chance to draw your weapon. Well, you will get something on the order of a little less than 4%, but that decreases to 0% when you consider whether they actually got a chance to discharge a round.

A lot of people either haven’t thought things through clearly or don’t understand that training programs have been in the works since before the buildings fell on 9/11 and that the results using armed pilots have not been encouraging at all when faced with trained opponents.

I suspect a lot of them also thought throwing billions of dollars away federalizing the screeners was going to accomplish something too.

18 posted on 09/09/2002 7:01:19 AM PDT by thatsnotnice
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To: thatsnotnice
I don't agree with you. If you came to my (locked) front door and started banging on it and yelling that you wanted to take control of my house, do you think I would open the door to shoot you? No, the moment you attemtped to turn the door handle, I would estimate where you were standing and shoot through the door.

What makes you think that the pilots are going to wait until a hijacker actually opens the door? As soon as they hear someone trying to get through that cockpit door without first calling on the interphone I would expect that they will have their weapons in their hands and be calling the stewardess to verify what is going on.

22 posted on 09/09/2002 7:37:28 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: thatsnotnice
So, the training scenerio had guys breaking down the locked cockpit door and pilots did not hear the noise and get their guns out before the guys broke through the door? They must have gotten trought the locked door pretty fast, or extremely quietly. Seems to me in pilots would have enough time to unholster their guns in the time between when they heard someone banging on the door and the time the door is broken enought to let the hijacker through. If not, maybe a couple metal bars behind the door would help.
23 posted on 09/09/2002 7:41:56 AM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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