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To: Roscoe
3/10 of 1% of the vote in the last presidential election suggests considerable dissatisfaction with Libertarianism.

Illogical. A libertarian regime is not the current state of affairs. It has also not been widely recognized as a desirable new state of affairs. Hence, little motivation among voters to act for change in that direction.

When the proposition was first presented that the earth is round, and not the center of the universe, it was met with vehement scorn, and its proponents were widely regarded as heretics. But they were right!

As previously pointed out . . .

And rebutted. A rebuttal to which you have not responded in any substantive manner. Here's more:

The term "indenture" refers to "A contract binding one party into the service of another for a specified term." This dictionary definition makes no reference to such a contract being involuntary. The XIII Amendment specifically prohibits involuntary servitude, and the two terms, indentured and involuntary are not synonymous. To elaborate, when one enlists into military service, one is entering into a state of indentured servitude according to the definition above. Surely you would not insist that, in the absense of a draft, this is involuntary servitude or slavery?

667 posted on 09/25/2002 2:50:47 PM PDT by SJC_Libertarian
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To: SJC_Libertarian
The XIII Amendment specifically prohibits involuntary servitude, and the two terms, indentured and involuntary are not synonymous.

Fertilizer.

Mr. Justice Miller, delivering the opinion of the majority of the court, after observing that the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth articles of amendment of the constitution were all addressed to the grievances of the negro race, and were designed to remedy them, continued as follows: "We do not say that no one else but the negro can share in this protection. Both the language and spirit of these articles are to have their fair and just weight in any question of construction. Undoubtedly, while negro slavery alone was in the mind of the congress which proposed the thirteenth article, it forbids any other kind of slavery, now or hereafter. If Mexican peonage or the Chinese coolie labor, system shall develop slavery of the Mexican or Chinese race within our territory, this amendment may safely be trusted to make it void." -- United States Supreme Court, 169 U.S. 649 UNITED STATES v. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

Main Entry: 1slave
Pronunciation: 'slAv
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English sclave, from Old French or Medieval Latin; Old French esclave, from Medieval Latin sclavus, from Sclavus Slavic; from the frequent enslavement of Slavs in central Europe
Date: 14th century
1 : a person held in servitude as the chattel of another

670 posted on 09/25/2002 7:00:41 PM PDT by Roscoe
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