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Shellfish Diet Found To Benefit Dogs With Arthritis
Independent (UK) ^ | 9-9-2002 | Steve Connor

Posted on 09/08/2002 7:18:01 PM PDT by blam

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To: SCalGal; gcruse; MagnoliaMS
I have a dog with joint problems and I use two different sources of glucosamine in her diet. First, since I make homemade food for my dogs, I add a powdered supplement to be sure if has the right nutrients -- "Missing Link plus Glucosamine." Petsmart carries it. I also use Pedigree Jointcare(tm) treats, which contain mussels and can be found in most any grocery store. Both products have directions that can be easily adjusted for the weight of your dog.

SCalGal, if you need a higher-fat food, have you ever tried Biljac? Especially the frozen variety? My dogs go crazy over that stuff (about the only thing they like as much is my homemade dog food), but it tended to put too much weight on them.

41 posted on 09/09/2002 6:57:13 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: blam
Will Maine Lobster do the same thing? I've been looking for something in the $10-20 \lb. range to feed my dog. (g)
42 posted on 09/09/2002 6:59:02 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Republic
I know a number of people who use the glucosamine/chondroitin as a preventative. Also vitamin C... I don't know exactly how the vit C works, but the Great Dane breeders I know swear by it.

They also say to stay away from foods high in salt, like pedigree, because the salt causes fluid build up in the joints.

43 posted on 09/09/2002 7:01:29 PM PDT by SCalGal
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To: RedWhiteBlue
I'm using Nature's Recipe Chicken, Rice & Barley (very much like Nutro's chicken & rice, but higher in fat), Eucanuba, Nutra Nuggets, and Artimus. Different foods for different bodies....

And I know the vet who formulated Missing Link; he's a very nice man and a darn good vet - he sees some of my dogs.
44 posted on 09/09/2002 7:06:24 PM PDT by SCalGal
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To: Republic
Glucosamine and Chondroitin sulfate used in a normal dog will postpone the effects of arthritis in both humans and dogs (cats too). There are no side effects to the administration of these in a healthy animal and benefits cannot be measured (for that matter G & CS are building blocks of the bladder and will help some cases of chronic urinary tract infections). Fish oil/flax oil (omega 3 fatty acids) are good for eyesight, immune system, and the skin and have been used in conjunction with antihistamines and found to be effective in the treatment of atopy in over half the cases. I take both G/CS and omega 3 fatty acid tablets myself; the benefits outweigh the downside of waiting for the downside and experiencing it. Omega 3 fatty acids are helpful in staving off artheriosclerosis and are excellent for the immune system and the skin.

Glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate brands are universally the same and must follow the FDA guidelines for mg per tablet. Cosequin is the brand name for veterinary use that is the most reliable however it is the most expensive. I recommend to my clients to go to Wal Mart and buy their name brands which is half to one-third the cost.

45 posted on 09/09/2002 7:09:00 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: BKT
OK, you win.

ROFLMFAO...

L

46 posted on 09/09/2002 7:12:45 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: blam
I can also recomend Nzymes pet products. Just add a .com to the name for their web site.
47 posted on 09/09/2002 7:14:45 PM PDT by Khurkris
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To: vetvetdoug
Thanks for the info.
Should I wait til my pups are full grown or start now, 4 months old? Pit and Aussie, if it matters.
48 posted on 09/09/2002 7:16:18 PM PDT by dtel
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To: BKT
Too funny.
LOL
49 posted on 09/09/2002 7:19:24 PM PDT by dtel
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To: dtel
There are no contraindications to the feeding of G/CS. Its only money and no harm in doing so. The only side effect is the loss of money buying the stuff....If your dogs don't like it you can take it too...
50 posted on 09/09/2002 7:30:13 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: gcruse
Tell me about it! I just found out a few days ago that they shave their legs!

Really? I must have missed that at the meeting...


51 posted on 09/09/2002 7:37:43 PM PDT by lsee
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To: vetvetdoug
 
Glucosamine and Chondroitin sulfate used in a normal
dog will postpone the effects of arthritis in both humans and dogs

Hmm.  And just how does that work?  ;)

As for contraindications, too high a maintanence
level will make for a stiff neck, pain when rotating
the head to the far left and the far right, and
stiff, painful shoulders.  I assume if the dosage
is kept up the pain/stiff joints will eventually
spread to the whole body.

52 posted on 09/09/2002 7:49:29 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
After I posted it I read it and realized the gaffe. You weren't supposed to catch the error....However, the better the dog feels the more exercise the owner should get and therefore help decrease the arthritis in the owner. How's that for Clintonspeak?
53 posted on 09/10/2002 7:10:53 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Hey, you know what? I buy the explanation.
I'm sorry for thinking you had made a mistake. :)
54 posted on 09/10/2002 12:42:34 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: vetvetdoug
Thank you so much for your fantastic response to my questions. I truly appreciate it.

I will go to Walmart-and I will buy their brands. What do you think of Vit C additive-yeah or nay. And do you give your dog, if you have one, fish oil?

Doc-our Bernese is a gem. Our fist Bernese died at age five from liver cancer they believe was either induced from the steroids she took in a concentrated amount because she has such a serious joint problem she refused to move (wanted to die-I am certain. We drove three hours to take her to a clinic in Columbus that specializes in cancers and other serious diseases-she stayed there two separate times-our final cost was over $5000.00 dollars. When they first biopsied her front leg joints-the fluid in the joints was like water. The Vet explained to us that it should be of a consistency that would allow them to stretch it out for several feet...in a string. The steroids helped, she started to recover, then the liver cancer took over. We wondered if the cancer may have started from a Lyme vac series we had her take upon moving back to the states. I guess we will never know if it was that or the steroids treatment. It took us two years to recover from this gentle, loving dogs death. Prior we had had two mutts who both lived to be seventeen years of age....we were not used to an animal dying so young.

This current Bernese Mtn Dog is wonderfully healthy and alert. At 16 months of age-I don't want to load her up on additives that might do more harm than good, nor do I want to simply make for expensive pet urine. On the other hand, I would LOVE to provide her with a diet that helps her immune system to fight off the ravages of arthritis and other auto-immune diseases.

If she were yours-exactly what would you be feeding her. Many thanks-and I promise not to bug you ever again....well....maybe just a little! LOL

55 posted on 09/10/2002 3:06:47 PM PDT by Republic
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