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Police ask stores to take fingerprints
DFW Star-Telegram ^ | 9/5/2002 | SUSAN SCHROCK

Posted on 09/05/2002 12:46:02 PM PDT by WindMinstrel

By Special to the Star-Telegram

ARLINGTON - Police are asking businesses to voluntarily participate in a program to take customers' fingerprints if they pay by check.

Operation Thumbs Up, scheduled to begin citywide Sunday, aims to help authorities identify check theft and forgery by obtaining a source of identification that can't be stolen or faked - fingerprints. The system is similar to those used by banks that require fingerprints on checks.

"No longer can we rely on the driver's license as a valid form of identity when passing a check," Detective Kyle Gibson said. "We can't expect clerks to memorize every face in a line. By getting a print, we can place that person when the check was passed to get a successful prosecution."

The program was announced Friday. Police spokeswoman Christy Gilfour said the department is considering making the program mandatory.

Participating stores will be clearly identified to the public. Employees will be trained to take fingerprints. A series of town hall meetings will be scheduled to explain the program to business owners and the community. Wes Jurey, president of the Arlington Chamber of Commerce, said the organization will help make Arlington's 10,000 store owners aware of the program's benefits over the coming weeks. Jurey said there has been no adverse reaction from business owners he has talked to about the program.

"I think most people are not aware of how easy it would be for a person to come into a store, open an account with another person's identity, charge a large amount of merchandise and return it. Then the merchant has a problem," Jurey said.

Alan Levy, chief of the criminal division of the Tarrant County district attorney's office, said having a fingerprint means "there won't be any question about who passed the check" and will save prosecutors time litigating fraud cases.

Police said Arlington has had an increase in check fraud during the past three years. From 1999 to July 2002, detectives worked 8,463 forged check cases resulting in $1.7 million in losses to merchants, according to police records. In most of these cases, detectives have no suspects because fraudulent identification was used, Sgt. James Crouch said.

Police said fingerprinting systems are inexpensive compared to merchandise loss and will help keep prices down for the consumer. Systems will cost businesses between $2 and $40 a month to operate, Gibson said. Businesses will purchase the type of system they want to use.

The systems range from an inkless pad in which the chemical easily rubs off the skin, to an electronic sensor that compares a customer's print to a pre-scanned fingerprint, Crouch said. Another system involves a clear chemical that leaves a blue imprint when pressed onto a chemical-sensitive sticker that is usually placed onto the back of a check.

Police assured they will only see prints when a business submits a forged check for investigation, Crouch said. The print will then be checked against others in a statewide criminal fingerprint database.

Pam Dawson, property manager for the Lincoln Square shopping center, said seven stores have participated in the program since March, and she expects all 88 stores in the center to comply.

"Our goal is to show we are a safe shopping center," she said. "If you are a fraudulent check user, we don't want you to come to Lincoln Square."

Dawson doesn't expect complaints from customers.

"I anticipate if you are not guilty of anything, it's not going to matter to you if someone takes your thumbprint," she said.


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1 posted on 09/05/2002 12:46:02 PM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: Wolfie; Neckbone; JediGirl; steve50; philman_36; Hemingway's Ghost; headsonpikes; vin-one; ...
Police spokeswoman Christy Gilfour said the department is considering making the program mandatory.


2 posted on 09/05/2002 12:46:49 PM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: WindMinstrel
Dawson doesn't expect complaints from customers.

That Onion comes up with some great, funny, funny material.

3 posted on 09/05/2002 12:47:55 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: WindMinstrel
That's nuthin'. Wait till they start printing the people who insist on paying with cash.
5 posted on 09/05/2002 12:48:36 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: WindMinstrel
"No longer can we rely on the driver's license as a valid form of identity when passing a check," Detective Kyle Gibson

I wonder if this was a recent epiphany.

6 posted on 09/05/2002 12:50:16 PM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: WindMinstrel
What's next, a stool sample when paying by cash?
7 posted on 09/05/2002 12:50:47 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: Wolfie
That's nuthin'. Wait till they start printing the people who insist on paying with cash.

It's in the works,I'm sure.

8 posted on 09/05/2002 12:51:04 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: WindMinstrel
"I anticipate if you are not guilty of anything, it's not going to matter to you if someone takes your thumbprint," she said.

I doubt that will be the overwhelming sentiment at this forum.

9 posted on 09/05/2002 12:52:19 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
I bet it splits 50/50.
10 posted on 09/05/2002 12:54:18 PM PDT by Wolfie
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Either one of you got the link to the site that tells you how to forge a genuine bonafide fingerprint including the little peel off print so the whole thing looks authentic? I want to say it was in Risks Digest but I'm not absolutely certain.
11 posted on 09/05/2002 12:56:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: WindMinstrel
They won't get a complaint from me, cause I won't pay my good money to such bums.
12 posted on 09/05/2002 12:57:01 PM PDT by RISU
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I'm as paranoid as anybody about this sort of thing, but this doesn't bother me. If the print is attached to the back of the check, nobody keeps a copy (unless the check bounces), and I get the print back when my cancelled check comes to me, I have no problem with this. This has been done elsewhere, and the number of bogus checks passed drops dramitically.
13 posted on 09/05/2002 12:59:09 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
Dramatically, even.
14 posted on 09/05/2002 12:59:58 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Wolfie
Roscoe's going to get a rager over this.
15 posted on 09/05/2002 1:05:08 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: WindMinstrel
Paper is so-o-o-o 20th century. Plastic is king.
16 posted on 09/05/2002 1:10:56 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: John Jorsett
This has been done elsewhere, and the number of bogus checks passed drops dramitically.

Yeah but people are still going to complain. Up until someone writes checks against their account for a few thousand dollars and the bank drags its feet re-crediting their account for the forgeries… then a lot of them will jump right on board.

18 posted on 09/05/2002 1:12:08 PM PDT by Who dat?
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That it is . . . that it is . . . boiiiing.
19 posted on 09/05/2002 1:14:08 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Wolfie
"Wait till they start printing the people who insist on paying with cash."

Some stores are already demanding personal information if you pay cash before they will give you a receipt. It really concerns me that there are people on FR even who applaud these snowballing encroachments upon our freedoms and our rights.

20 posted on 09/05/2002 1:14:10 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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