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To: Alamo-Girl; Travis McGee
The gripe was that the researcher had a grant to look into finding ways to deal with an anthrax outbreak, but he was doing genetic research which the students claimed was for weapons development.

(I know of no way to study how to fight such weapons without also knowing how to develop such weapons. Obviously, if you don't know how to create nasty strains, how can you possibly test to see if your treatment will work? these same groups slam the anthrax vaccine saying it was untested, yet they seem to go out of their way to make sure it can't be tested with protests such as these.)

Anyway, the students made such a stink over it - I think this was in the early nineties- that the researcher decided not to renew the grant, and from that time on Nass was proclaimed an 'expert' although she has yet to obtain any credentials to back up the image, as far as I can tell. She is now reaping credentials from the 'crisis,' and from the Gulf War Syndrome hysteria which are not proof of knowledge or accomplishments so much as a list of interviews. Like the 'General' the cable news networks used in interviews who turned out to be a nobody, all it takes to get 'expert' status is to sucker at least one mainline news show or paper into citing you. She has since supposedly been called to testify at a Courts Martial and all over the place... if I knew this was all it takes to become an 'expert' I could have been a talking head too by just feeding people what they want to hear. Good grief.

40 posted on 09/04/2002 10:38:02 PM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa
Good grief indeed! Great research and analysis, piasa!!! Kudos!

It looks like these "experts" need to be exposed in the media. Have you sent an email to Bill O'Reilly lately? This looks like the kind of expose he likes to sink his teeth into.

41 posted on 09/04/2002 10:47:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Great Satan; Travis McGee
Well, Travis, it looks like this merry little band of greens has played a very big role in shutting down research on anthrax vaccines, just in time to leave us open for biological blackmail. Pretty convenient for a group which happens to be in bed with Hussein, don't you agree? :

"Aided by a grant from the U.S. Army, during the 1980s Curtis Thorne, a UMass microbiologist, researched the genetic structure of a non-virulent strain of the anthrax bacillus. The non-classified research was aimed at developing a better vaccine, the researcher and Army spokesmen said. "

"After two years of protests by area peace activists (*Rosenberg's friend Nass and her student associates back in the mid-90s) arguing that the Army actually wanted to develop anthrax weapons, the researcher decided not to renew the grant. Thorne retired in the early 1994, and no anthrax research is now being performed at the Amherst campus, said Barbara Pitoniak of the UMass news office."

"No anthrax vaccine has been produced in the United States in more than two years..."

So, when was that Physicians for a Responsible Society trip to Iraq again?

42 posted on 09/04/2002 11:58:59 PM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa
I think you are on to something here.

There is no question in my mind that Nass is totally whacked. Her thinking is so convoluted that she can no longer recognize right from wrong--which makes her perfectly capable of framing Hatfill. She also sees the US as an enemy to her great utopian one-world government. That's clear from these excerpts from your link in #36:

It is a necessity that we evolve beyond the system of war. Everyone including every plant and animal is under the threat of impending peril until this neu global consciousness liberates the court system from national laws that are designed to protect the rich and destroy the poor. These laws enable the plutocray to condition, brainwashing the labor force to be content with being wage slaves by fragmenting their minds, bodies and souls in work that creates no positive future for the human race...

After reading the article, I realized that all of us are still faced with imminent harm as the preparation for war continues to threaten our species with extinction--continues to deplete our resources needed to shelter, feed, heal, and educate people to the necessity of creating an ecologically sustainable society of peace. Until we have a massive conversion towards the evolutionary understanding that we are one planet and must live in harmony with nature, until this holistic religious experience penetrates the hearts of all, we are faced with inevitable ruin, not only to us the living, but to the yet unborn...

It's also clear from her article that she sees Ramsey Clark as a hero. I'm betting she's working with him--which means he could well figure in this.

As for the anthrax vaccine, there seems to have been some real problems there unless the stories of them being cited by the Board of Health for lack of sterility were false. I don't remember any denials by the Board of Health, though. However, the company was sold IIRC; so that problem may have been fixed.

Also, isn't the manufacturer in Michigan? I wonder if there are/were any Islamists on their Board of Health?

I agree with you that it would certainly be in our enemies' best interest to prevent the troops (and the population) from being vaccinated. So you may be right that Hussein or Russia was behind a campaign to discredit it. I mention Russia because I think they offered to sell us some meds or vaccine (though maybe it was small pox vaccine I'm remembering).

43 posted on 09/05/2002 12:15:12 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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