Augusta National says Masters will be without commercials - rather than invite women into club

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 8/30/02 | Glenn Sheeley

[GeneD]

Augusta National Golf Club is putting its money where its mouth is in its fight with a women's group pressuring the club to admit a female member.

Club chairman Hootie Johnson announced Friday that because corporate sponsors of the Masters' telecast are being pressured by the National Council of Women's Organizations, the 2003 tournament will be shown without sponsors or commercials.

At least golf fans will benefit from the fight. The 2003 telecast would have contained its normal four commerical minutes per hour. With 12 1/2 hours of live programming, that's 50 minutes of commericials that will not take golf fans away from the action.

"Augusta National is NCWO's true target," Johnson said in a statement. "It is therefore unfair to put the Masters media sponsors in the position of having to deal with this pressure. Accordingly, we have told our media sponsors that we will not request their participation for the 2003 Masters."

Rather than put its sponsors in a position where boycotts or their products or services would be threatened, Johnson said the Masters will absorb the advertising fees that would have been paid by IBM, Coca-Cola and Citigroup.

Johnson said, "We are sorry, but not surprised, to see those corporations drawn into this matter, but contunue to insist that our private club should not be 'managed' by an outside group. . . There may come a day when women will be invited to join our club, but that decision must be ours. We also believe that the Masters and the club are different, and that one should not affect the other."

[Red Jones]

we should organize a boycott of the congressional black caucus. Because I understand they only let black people into the congressional black caucus.

[Mark Felton]

You miss my point. I will state it another way.

You have no right to free speech inside any private place or business.

The owners may dictate the limits of your speech. If you do not comply they have the right to eject you from their premises.

You also have no right to broadcast your speech if it requires the use of another persons facilities to do so. They may refuse you.

Otherwise, you may raise all the h3ll you wish.

[Frohickey]

Is one of your duties to help these Women's Organizations to exclude Men from their organizations?

I think a letter to NCWO getting them to include Men's Organizations is in order. If they can try and push their feminist agenda into a private club like the ANGC, then I can try and push my male agenda into a private club like the NCWO.

[Irish Eyes]

"they think the principle is more important than the money".

I always thought that princile WAS more important than the money.

[Psycho_Bunny]

The Straw Man is a type of Red Herring in which the arguer is attempting to refute his opponent's position, and in the dialectical context is required to do so, but instead attacks a position--the "straw man"--not held by his opponent.

The address you meant to type in your browser, before you came here, was:  "Democratic" Underground

[Sonny M]

One on one personal business discussions are not regulated by law.

You ever hear of insider trading? Never the less, I do believe that this club does have the right to be exclusive, people do have the right to chose who they want to associate with on their own time and leisure. The thing that does please me, about these femi-nazi's is that they haven't attempted to resort to government or court interference and erode by legal means private citizens rights. They have chosen speech so far. so far being the key word, the left will go through any gutter for there goal.

[Mark Felton]

"You ever hear of insider trading? "

Discussion to break the law is considered conspiracy. The action (insider trading) is illegal thus deliberate plans to perform the action is illegal.

Private discussion to discuss stock values amongst private individuals, and corporate execs, are certainly not illegal.

[Psycho_Bunny]

The Straw Man is a type of Red Herring in which the arguer is attempting to refute his opponent's position, and in the dialectical context is required to do so, but instead attacks a position--the "straw man"--not held by his opponent.

However, I didn't commit that logical fallacy.

Uh.....no.  That's precisely what you did.  You were attempting to equate a private club's policy with Jim Crow laws.  The one has nothing to do with the other.

The address you meant to type in your browser, before you came here, was: "Democratic" Underground

Sounds like the logical fallacy known as argumentum ad hominem

It's only an ad hominem attack if it isn't true:

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[Texas_Jarhead]

bravo BUMP

[Trajan88]

Is golf a sport?

NCAA college football is in full force this weekend and the NFL, the next.

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88

[one2many]

I went to elementary school with Hootie's daughter.

I always thought she was real attractive.

Now I think she's beautiful.

Hi Jennifer; hope life has been good to you!

[Lorianne]

So? Your point is moot. No one is asking to protest inside Augusta's private space or from its facilities.

[Lorianne]

Is golf a sport?

Thats debatable I guess. It's beyond me why anyone would want to play such a boring game, much less WATCH others play it. ZZZZZZZZZZZ To each his/her own!

Frankly, I'd rather eat worms than play or watch golf.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Club chairman Hootie Johnson announced Friday that because corporate sponsors of the Masters' telecast are being pressured by the National Council of Women's Organizations, the 2003 tournament will be shown without sponsors or commercials.

Cool! Glad to hear it! Ad-free golf ..... yippee! I'm glad the organizers had the guts to stand up to these Femi-Nazis!!!!!

[Guillermo]

I NEVER said those wacko lesbian freaks didn't have the right to make their anti-freedom views known.

I just CALLED them on their HYPOCRISY.