Traficant to Stay on Ballot (It's OFFICIAL!---WOO HOO!!!)

AP via Yahoo! News ^ | August 28, 2002

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"Bush is a liberal, Hillary is socialist"

While I agree that Hillary is a socialist, I heartily disagree that President Bush is a "liberal", unless by "liberal", you mean that he's not ultra right-wing, and therefore must be "liberal." He is no more liberal than I am, and the only alleged "conservatives" who've EVER accused me of being a liberal are the libertarians.

[MadIvan]

I was thinking video conferencing. If he wins, he'll demand it...and he'll probably get it too.

They could put the big screen up at the podium...no, that's defying even fiction. ;)

Regards, Ivan

[gunshy]

Bush has brought new highs to government spending and don't say it is because of military spending. He has increeased spending in all areas of government. He has increased the size of government and is looking to add aditional employees. He is increasingly limiting the freedom of the citizens of this country while keeping our borders open and offering amnesty to illegals already here. He has signed into law a bill that violates the constitution. He has continued and improved the cover-up for the clintons. He is intent on starting a war with Iraq just like most of the dems of the last century started wars. All you have to do is take an objective look at Bushs record and you will come the the same conclusion, Bush is a liberal.

[Badray]

"Or reruns."

Oh sure. Who has reruns of 77 Sunset Strip? I haven't seen them anywhere.

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"They could put the big screen up at the podium...no, that's defying even fiction. ;)"

LOL...Beam me up!

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The increse in government spending is much smaller than democrats would have us believe with their fuzzy math...one of his forst acts was to cut $80 million out of Clinton's 2001 budget proposal which was to go to pay for free abortions for pregnant women worldwide. He cut other areas of the budget at the same time.

I know for a fact where most of these new federal employees cam/are coming from. Blame for federalized airport security goes straight to Congress, the political left-wing and the libertarian parties. President Bush spoke out against it, but had no choice: he could not veto in the face of overwhelming political and public opinion to the contrary.

Other jobs: Homeland Defense has barely even started hiring yet. It hasn't even been funded yet as far as I know. You're exhaggerating for some reason...I bet you voted for Buchannan, didn't you?

[AndrewC]

Uhhh...wasn't Traficant convicted on felony charges?

Yes and he is serving time for that. Thus due to the double jeopardy clause of the constitution he cannot be arrested for that charge again. Any arrest would have to be a new charge. Of course escaping from custody would most likely be a felony, but leaving to attend a function for which he was duly elected might not be a crime. At least he has an argument in my mind for furlough to attend.

[Marysecretary]

I agree about Hilliary but I don't believe Bush is really a liberal. He may have to concede at times in order to be bipartisan, but I don't think he could be called a true liberal.

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Oh...and he refunded our gutted military, for which I am thankful. At least we have a president, rather than a two-bit trailor trash wannabe in the Oval Office, showing strength, leadership and personal integrity rather than an overgrown high-school sophmore getting B.J.'s while terrorists attack the citizens of his country.

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Right. So he can't be given furlough for House hearings, right?

[BlackRazor]

Sorry, I mean Indiana - 2.

Very early on there was quite a bit of media buzz about how this race was going to be a sort of bellwether contest in a typical swing district. And that may very well still be the case, but oddly I have seen almost no news coming out of this one. Although Jill Long Thompson (D) did serve 3 terms in Congress in the early 90's, I think I would give a slight edge to Chris Chocola (R), considering he only narrowly lost to 5-term incumbent Tim Roemer in 2000. But that's just a hunch on my part. Did you have any thoughts on this one?

[mindprism.com]

. Of course escaping from custody would most likely be a felony, but leaving to attend a function for which he was duly elected might not be a crime. At least he has an argument in my mind for furlough to attend.

Exactly, I would consider this a 'peoples pardon' and his sentence should (at least) be suspended while he serves.

We have laws of criminal nature, why not legislate from the horses mouth and end the charade? It'll be FUN!

[mindprism.com]

So he can't be given furlough for House hearings, right?

He HAS to be, what are you going to do overturn an election, or hinder a peoples representative?

I wonder about the constitutionality of congress booting him AGAIN for the SAME REASON. (Double Jeopordy?)

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"He HAS to be, what are you going to do overturn an election, or hinder a peoples representative?"

Why overturn? I believe Traficant wouldn't be the first elected representative to conduct his office from prison.

It was your own post, #82, that made me think he won't be eligible for furlough:

"They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place"

Perhaps some sort of exception can be made.

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Oh, and I believe you're right: it WOULD be double jeopardy if congress tried to boot him again for the same reason....so after he announced he's running ANYWAY during the congressional kangaroo, token, Traficant-booting 'hearing', they were muttering about finding some way to keep him from being sworn in or something to that effect.

[crystalk]

What typo?

[gunshy]

No unfortunately, I voted for Bush. Never again. I am not exaggerating on the budget. Bush even went further than the dems wanted on the education bill. There is nothing conservative about Bush, there is nothing moderate about Bush. He has failed to stand up for his judicial appointments and his justice department is defending the clintons on all counts.

The only thing about Bush that you can possibly support is the fact that he has the (R) beside his name. I wish you republicans who support these so called republicans would wake up and help find some real conservatives and real republicans to run for office the next time around. Each day that passes just shows Bush to be more of a liberal than the previous day. Even now, he is folding on his plans to attack Iraq. This guy is a fraud and a weakling. He does not have the balls to stand up for America.

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"No unfortunately, I voted for Bush. Never again."

You completely lost any validity when you repeated the same line I have been reading from you people from January 20, 2001.

You did not vote for him, and there is nothing in your thin parroting of the left-wing propaganda fed to you useful idiots by your handlers in the Democratic party.

As for balls...he had the balls to rip up Clinton's EO on what constitutes a living baby, stopped funding for fetal stem cell research, renewed our gutted military, got us...YOU you ingrate, a cut off the highest tax burden this country has ever faced, tossed Kyoto and torn up the ABM treaty...

You're the one missing the balls with your cowardly propagandistic slander

[itsahoot]

--Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb!--

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Careful there, remembering black and white TV series, make me want to hummm........ 77 Sunset Strip.....

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--I wonder about the constitutionality of congress booting him AGAIN for the SAME REASON. (Double Jeopordy?)--

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The will just refuse to seat him, congress has the sole authority to determine the fitness of those elected to the house.