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Sudeten Germans
Stars and Stripes ^ | August 19, 2002 | Helmut A. Reichel

Posted on 08/30/2002 6:21:41 AM PDT by robowombat

Sudeten Germans

This is concerning the story “U.S. donates $1 million” about the U.S. government’s donation for a memorial to honor the 8,000 Muslim men and boys slain in Srebrenica, Bosnia and Herzegovina, in 1995. I was moved and grateful to read that the U.S. government has donated $1 million for a memorial to honor those slain in “Europe’s worst massacre since World War II.” But where is the U.S. government’s donation for a memorial to honor 266,600 massacred Sudeten Germans shortly after World War II?

Notwithstanding all press reports and history books to the contrary, “Europe’s worst massacre since World War II” did not take place in 1995 in the Balkans. Rather, it was unleashed the day the war ended in 1945 in Bohemia, in what is now the Czech Republic, a NATO partner.

The Bohemian macromassacre was carried out by Czech mobs and so-called “revolutionary guards” who followed to the letter the hate hoots of their “model democrat” leaders (so described by inventive historiographers).

¶ “Woe! Woe! Woe! Three times woe to them! We shall liquidate them!” — Czech President Eduard Benes, Nobel Peace Prize candidate.

¶ “They have no soul, and the only things they understand are salvoes from machine guns!” — Jan Masaryk, son of “philosopher” President Tomas Garrigue Masaryk, who was the founder of “the most tolerant, most enlightened democracy in central Europe,” in the words of a celebrated American historian.

¶ “They are not human beings, but only half humans.” — Czech newspaper Svobodny Smer, July 18, 1945.

Who were “they” and “them?” They were the victims of the first, the biggest, and the best covered up post-World War II massacre in Europe. They were the 266,600 Sudeten people of my ethnicity. Most of them were women, children, oldsters, grannies and babies, since most able-bodied men had not returned from the war. They were tortured and slaughtered in ways that would make 1995 Serbian executioners blush, in ways not fit to print in Stars and Stripes.

The massacres have been meticulously documented in voluminous German government archives (albeit not publicized), and the number of victims has been determined by the German Federal Government Bureau of Statistics. But the media world has blanked out this subject for more than 50 years. And for more than 50 years I have been wondering why.

Was it to appease the Warsaw pact during the Cold War, seeing that the Czechs were then one of its members? Is it now to protect the good name of NATO, seeing that the Czech Republic is now one of its members? NATO must dig up mass graves in the Balkans, but in a NATO country? Heaven forbid!

Or is it perhaps to protect the good name of the United States, seeing that our leaders were in cahoots with Benes and Stalin when they blessed the genocide against 3 million Sudeten people under the pious name of “transfer” — 266,600 of them “transferred” into mass graves?

Or was it simply that the 266,600 victims were Sudeters, an ethnicity not worthy of mention in human historiography, seeing, as we have just seen, that they had no souls. None of them — women, children, oldsters, grannies and babies — half humans, all of them.

Helmut A. Reichel Aviano, Italy


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: czechrepublic; sudentenland
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Some old un-pc reminders.
1 posted on 08/30/2002 6:21:41 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
In order to put things in perspective, you might want to look at the role that these transplanted Hitler-adulating Germans took in the dismemberment of the Czech Republic at the start of the Second World War - - - or is this a case that it's only a bad thing when your people are being abused?
2 posted on 08/30/2002 6:33:04 AM PDT by curmudgeonII
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To: robowombat
Ahh, but the Germans were regarded as being collectively guilty of the Great Sin. The Great Sin, of course, is for a White to say or do anything that could be regarded as racist.

I'd like to be able to add a sarcasm tag, but I cannot. Even today, Al Sharpton and others of his ilk can engage in racial rhetoric of the worst kind and be given a pass. No White dares do the same.

3 posted on 08/30/2002 6:39:41 AM PDT by neutrino
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To: curmudgeonII
Makes a difference who the, "abusees and abusers" are.
4 posted on 08/30/2002 6:40:11 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: robowombat
The Donau Schwaben, Germans living in Romania were marched out ot there after the second world war as well. The ethnic cleansing was quite effective. The Romanian government went so far as to confiscate birth records from churches as well as destroy grave markers with German names.
The aim was to eliminate any evidence that either Germans, Hungarians or Jews ever lived in the country.
5 posted on 08/30/2002 6:49:07 AM PDT by 2right
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To: robowombat
I expect to see the standard argument presently: "Yeah, well those stinkin' Krauts supported Hitler and were responsible for the war, so they deserved to die."

Permit me to add a brief timeline:

1. In 1918, Bohemia and Moravia are severed from the Austro-Hungarian Empire (to which they had belonged for almost four hundred years) and a large German native population is incorporated in the new Czecho-Slovakian state in direct contravention of President Wilson's (fraudulent) promise of "national self-determination."

2. On March 23, 1933, the Enabling Act is passed by the German Reichstag, effectively making Hitler dictator for life. The Sudentland was still part of Czecho-Slovakia at the time, and the Sudeten Germans had exactly as much say in confirming Hitler's Regime as did the Germans in Poland or Austria - none.

3. On October 1, 1938, the Sudentenland is incorporated in Germany by agreement with the French and English, who gerrymandered the Czech state into existence in the first place.

As a post script, it should be pointed out that on January 2, 1939, Hitler is declared Time magazine's "man of the year."

6 posted on 08/30/2002 6:50:26 AM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: robowombat
The Sudeten Germans in the First Republic were a privileged minority living in a democratic state that protected their language and religious freedoms. Indeed in pre-1938 Czechoslovakia, the lot of the Sudeten Germans by all accounts was incomparably better than their the brethen under the heel of Nazi rule. Why were the expelled in 1945 then? They collaborated with Hitler as fifth columnists in the destruction of their own country and imposed a dark night on the Czech lands. Under Nazi rule, the Czechs lived as little better than slaves at the sufferance of their German masters. After the war and after what Czechoslovakia went through after the Western betrayal at Munich in the 30s, they were determined never again to allow the Sudeten Germans to threaten the existence of their country. They expelled them to Germany to honor their wish to live amongst their German brethen. Unlike the Czechs, the Sudeten Germans were not massacred or subject to inhuman treatment. They were simply given to understand their abuse of Czech hospitality forfeited them their status and claims to a continued existence in Czechoslovakia. Indeed President Eduard Benes and Foreign Minister Tomas Masaryk understood full well why the Sudeten question had to be resolved to secure the future of the Czechs. Incidentally the expulsion of the Sudeten German fifth column minority has also secured the peace of Europe ever since.
7 posted on 08/30/2002 6:52:47 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: robowombat
They were tortured and slaughtered .... in ways not fit to print in Stars and Stripes.

Right. Wouldn't want it to seem that war can be messy.

8 posted on 08/30/2002 6:59:46 AM PDT by eniapmot
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To: curmudgeonII
Of course it's their fault, they're German. lol
9 posted on 08/30/2002 7:01:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: robowombat
Many Czechs today acknowledge the wrongs done to the Sudeten Germans.

Another reason to be thankful that communism collapsed in Eastern Europe -- now history can be discussed and the facts brought out into the open.

Today the Sudetendeutschen and Donauschwaben are firmly integrated into Germany's society.
10 posted on 08/30/2002 7:01:44 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
I expect to see the standard argument presently: "Yeah, well those stinkin' Krauts supported Hitler and were responsible for the war, so they deserved to die."

Sounds like a good argument to me. Too bad for your side in that contest. Good luck next time, but you'll have be a little faster with the extermination.

11 posted on 08/30/2002 7:05:09 AM PDT by eniapmot
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To: tictoc
Today the Sudetendeutschen and Donauschwaben are firmly integrated into Germany's society.

and, then again ...

12 posted on 08/30/2002 7:12:09 AM PDT by eniapmot
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To: robowombat; joan; Balkans
>>>>“U.S. donates $1 million” about the U.S. government’s donation for a memorial to honor the 8,000 Muslim men and boys slain in Srebrenica, Bosnia and Herzegovina, in 1995<<<

It would be interesting to find out who signed the cheque for $1M of taxpayers money to honour allies of Osama Bin Laden. It can bring criminal chages against this individual for embezzlement of public funds.!

"8000 Muslim men and boys" is the biggest hoax since Piltdown Man

Even Kangaroo Kourt in The Hague use the nuber of 1200, not 8000 in its verdict for "genocide" although 1200 is also made up (real nuber was around 600 summarily shot members of Bosnian Army, "an understandable revenge" in humwarrior speak.

Among those "8000 men and boys" who were honored by U.S. were those who died several years prior to conflict, those killed in battle around Srebrenica, as well those who are still alive. Some of them living in Ole U.S. of A. today.

14 posted on 08/30/2002 7:20:37 AM PDT by DTA
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To: eniapmot
The link you posted leads to the association of Sudeten Germans.

Not all of them are revisionists hoping to reclaim "their land". Some just belong for the opportunity to dress up in traditional costumes and keep their traditional folklore alive.

Others, however, are being difficult and try to throw a spanner into the works.
For these people a special word was coined in the German language: the ewig Gestrigen, loosely translated as "people stuck in the past".

16 posted on 08/30/2002 8:00:37 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: eniapmot
Fine. Would you care to explain the culpability of people who were not even part of the Reich at the time Hitler was elected, and who were then incorporated in Germany with the full knowledge and support of the Western allies?

The concept of "group guilt" was the justification behind the Nazi death camps, as it was behind the fire-bombing of Dresden, and the post-war reprisals. It was wrong when the Nazis did it, when the Commuinists did it, and -- although they would like to flush it down the Memory Hole -- when the western allies did it.

That civilians in the Sudetenland should have been punished for what their un-elected government did is not ethically different from the radical Islamist belief that American civilians should be punished for what the American government chooses to do in the Middle East.

When people point out the atrocities that were either hushed up, condoned, or actually committed by the Allies in World War Two, it is not done to exculpate the Nazis, but rather to take down the saintly Allies a notch or two. No one emerged from World War II with clean hands, perhaps because no one entered with clean hands.

17 posted on 08/30/2002 8:56:46 AM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
You are putting an awful slant on the issue. The Volksdeutscher were not killed because they were of the same race as the enemy. They were killed because they AIDED and ABETTED the enemy. They were Nazis in the 30s. They won the support of the worldwide press such as the Times of London who called on the Czechs to stop oppressing those poor dear Sudetens (who were blowing up police stations and holding Nazi rallies). Of course, the government did give up their only defensive positions in the western mountains (1937) The rest is, as they say, history. The Nazis' glide through Eastern Europe was made possible by the loyal Nazi Volksdeutschers in each country. And your numbers are inflated: of the dozen or so million Volksdeutscher sent packing in 1945-46 ...incorporated in Germany with the full knowledge and support of the Western allies?..

So? Kosovo will be incorporated in Albania with the full knowledge and support of the West. Because the "west" approves of something it is automatically correct?

18 posted on 08/30/2002 9:39:08 AM PDT by eniapmot
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