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Lesbian Couple Loses Custody Ruling

Posted on 08/28/2002 9:36:40 AM PDT by RCW2001

COLUMBUS, Ohio Aug. 28 — The Ohio Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a lesbian couple's claim that both women are parents of each other's children, but said a juvenile court may decide whether to grant the women's request for equal custody.

In a 5-2 decision, the court sent the case back to the Hamilton County juvenile court that first rejected the request of Teri Bonfield and Shelly Zachritz.

It said the juvenile court has jurisdiction over deciding the custody of any child who is not a ward of the court, and can therefore determine whether the request is in the children's best interest.

However, Chief Justice Thomas Moyer wrote in the majority's opinion that the women can't be considered parents of each other's children because under Ohio law, "parent" typically includes only the biological or adoptive parent.

The couple's attorney, Sallee Fry Waterman, praised the decision.

"The court is saying you don't need to be considered a parent to have shared custody of a child," Waterman said. "The decision advances a need for courts to determine what's in the children's best interest regardless of the adult's title and to recognize nontraditional families in custody decisions."

The suburban Cincinnati couple have been together 14 years.

Bonfield adopted two sons in 1996. Using artificial insemination, she gave birth to a son in 1996, and then to boy and girl twins in 1998. Zachritz later gave birth to a son by artificial insemination.

While Bonfield is the natural or adoptive mother of five of the children, the couple said, Zachritz has been the primary caregiver and the children consider her their parent.

The couple say each woman needs legal custody of the six children in case they separate or one of them dies, and sought to "confirm their commitment that they will both continue to raise the children regardless what happens to their relationship," according to court records.

A juvenile court magistrate ruled the court didn't have jurisdiction to grant the couple's request because Ohio law does not recognize same-sex parenting. An appeals court upheld the decision.


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1 posted on 08/28/2002 9:36:40 AM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
Thank God. Keep the kids out of the filthy hands of fags.
2 posted on 08/28/2002 9:59:12 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: That Subliminal Kid
You're not paying attention. They lost the right for both to be declared "parents", but they both still have custody of the children.

Also, how do you know that their hands are filthy? They may employ regular and intelligent handwashing practices.
3 posted on 08/28/2002 10:09:26 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
You're right, I leap for joy anytime a ruling comes down against fags, in whatever degree. They should extract the child from the home imho.
4 posted on 08/28/2002 10:30:25 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: That Subliminal Kid
With what should be done with the children once they are extracted?
5 posted on 08/28/2002 11:09:20 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: RCW2001
Bonfield adopted two sons in 1996. Using artificial insemination, she gave birth to a son in 1996, and then to boy and girl twins in 1998. Zachritz later gave birth to a son by artificial insemination.

Right. Good loving parents who refused their kids their fathers. Nice.

6 posted on 08/28/2002 1:03:28 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: That Subliminal Kid
You are right. Fags continue to add another layer of filth on society.
7 posted on 08/28/2002 1:06:41 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: yendu bwam
Right. Good loving parents who refused their kids their fathers. Nice.

Ummmm, their fathers released their sperm into a cup for chump change....I think they knew they wouldn't know their biological children.

8 posted on 08/28/2002 1:08:29 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Born in a Rage
Ummmm, their fathers released their sperm into a cup for chump change....I think they knew they wouldn't know their biological children.

The point, which I believe you miss is this: Moms created kids on purpose without fathers. That's incredibly wrong and selfish. The fathers created kids without ever intending to love them, to care for them, or to raise them. That's incredibly wrong and selfish.

9 posted on 08/28/2002 1:19:39 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: RCW2001
I think one would have a warped sence of life if one were raised by a couple of lesbians or a couple of fags. Glad i didn't have to endure that kind of crap.
10 posted on 08/28/2002 1:37:19 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: That Subliminal Kid
They should extract the child from the home imho.

You want the state to decide who is qualified to be a parent? Great...

11 posted on 08/28/2002 2:14:29 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: yendu bwam
Do you think it's easy to go through childbirth and raise kids....of course the mom's wanted the kids. I was raised by my Mom...Dad was a biker, Mom left him. You think maybe my Mom should have given me up for adoption?
12 posted on 08/28/2002 3:25:14 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Born in a Rage
Do you think it's easy to go through childbirth and raise kids....of course the mom's wanted the kids. I was raised by my Mom...Dad was a biker, Mom left him. You think maybe my Mom should have given me up for adoption?

Again you miss the point. Your Mom did not deliberately bring you into this world without a dad. These moms did. I believe (along with millions of others) that kids should have a mom and a dad. (You know, the kind that are real, that love and protect and cherish and teach and guide their kids.) These moms decided that they would bring kids into the world, knowing full well that those kids would never have real dads. That is incredibly selfish. Yes, they suffered pain in delivery. Does that mean they are less selfish for denying their kids dads? Of course not. That would be like my saying that because I work hard to provide my kids a house, it's alright to not give them enough food. There's a new thing in our country today, where anybody thinks they are virtuous for bringing kids into this world without a mom or a dad. That's really, really sad. Most especially to the kids involved. I don't know for sure, but I would guess that you often missed having a loving dad help raise you. I know I appreciated mine tremendously, and love him greatly now.

13 posted on 08/28/2002 3:35:47 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Born in a Rage
I was raised by my Mom...Dad was a biker, Mom left him.

Being a Biker is reason enough to leave your spouse???

Guess I better tell my Grandkids their Grandma has been wrong all these years...

14 posted on 08/28/2002 4:17:49 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Call me homoohobic ... but I don't think it's right for "gay" couples to have "pet" children
15 posted on 08/28/2002 4:19:13 PM PDT by 1_American
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To: Born in a Rage
...Dad was a biker, Mom left him.

I resemble that remark.
16 posted on 08/28/2002 4:23:37 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC
Dad!!!!! lol, just kiddin'....no it was not about him being a biker, it's just the way I usually refer to my dad.
17 posted on 08/28/2002 4:31:48 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: JDoutrider
See #17 okay? Personally, I like bikers....
18 posted on 08/28/2002 4:33:14 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: yendu bwam
No. I didn't miss him, actually. We were better off without him. You are missing my point....I'm just trying to illustrate that MANY people grow up without a Dad around, not just people with a lesbian Mom - so whether or not the Dad is involved isn't even an issue.
19 posted on 08/28/2002 4:35:48 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Born in a Rage
No. I didn't miss him, actually. We were better off without him.

You may not have missed him. Did you miss having a loving father in your life?

20 posted on 08/28/2002 4:46:39 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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