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N.H. police chief wants dorm forfeited under drug laws
Boston.com ^ | 8-27-2002 | Stephen Frothingham

Posted on 08/28/2002 12:27:14 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:08:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

DOVER, N.H. (AP) Police arrested nine current and former McIntosh College students on drug charges Tuesday, as the city police chief said he was pushing federal prosecutors to seize a college dorm under federal drug forfeiture laws.

''It is an open-air drug market like we've never seen in the city,'' Chief William Fenniman said of the dormitory at 181 Silver St., where most of the suspects lived. ''My idea is ... to stop the building from being used for illicit activity. Whatever it takes to do that, I'm willing to do.''


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''My idea is ... to stop the building from being used for illicit activity. Whatever it takes to do that, I'm willing to do.''

Yeah to hell with the constitution and property rights. Lets punish the property owners instead of the scumbag tennants. I remember reading a similar story were a guy who owned a Motel had it siezed by the drug nazis because some guest got caught selling drugs in one of the rooms. I shudder to think what would happen if this sort of thing becomes more common. Before you can rent a room expect to have your bags checked and have to submit a urine sample to worried hotel owners trying to protect thier property.

student, Scott O'Connor, told Foster's Daily Democrat he approved of the arrests. Drug use at the school ''makes me want to transfer,'' he said.

To where Mr. Bowtie dweeb? Every College has drug use. Its not a College's fault that there are lowlifes everywhere.

1 posted on 08/28/2002 12:27:14 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: rmmcdaniell
I love this 'school zone' crap. I didn't know that it applied to colleges.

So I guess the electronic schools set up in a strip mall are 'school zones'.

Does this mean if there is a K-Mart in the same strip mall and you buy a shotgun you can be prosecuted for having a 'gun' within 1000 feet of a 'school zone'.

Un-freakin'-believable. Screw the JBT's!

2 posted on 08/28/2002 12:38:09 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: rmmcdaniell
To where Mr. Bowtie dweeb?

Ah the Libertarian PC police strike again. That's right anybody who dares to speak out against rampant drug abuse on a campus is automatically shown up for scorn.

3 posted on 08/28/2002 12:38:40 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Looking4Truth
Un-freakin'-believable. Screw the JBT's!

And let's all hail the drug culture, correct?

4 posted on 08/28/2002 12:40:27 AM PDT by Dane
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To: rmmcdaniell
And another thing. Most people hear about the '1000 feet from a school zone' crap and figure that the lil' chillruns are being protected. Notice the ages of the ones getting busted? Hardly children.
5 posted on 08/28/2002 12:40:54 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: rmmcdaniell
If a SCHOOL owns the property, it's the school's responsibility to ensure its assets aren't being used for so much illicit and potentially lethal activities, and for presumably a long time.

Also, just because they HAD M14s (nice choice, but probably M1As), they didn't shoot anyone with them...but if someone really needed it, they would have worked real well, and the public servants would possibly have been able to go home alive that night. Personally, I think Thompsons make better general police weapons, and with drum magazines, they get the point across without firing a shot, sometimes. That's always best. Business is business. Rules is rules. There's a community out there, and some school is just a business. Come to think of it...I doubt the drugs were available for free (another business)...and were purchased from an unarmed distributor.


6 posted on 08/28/2002 12:43:33 AM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: Dane
Hey it's one of my favorite JBT's. Are you on the bong list or do you just troll for 'drug' threads?
7 posted on 08/28/2002 12:56:52 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: PoorMuttly
Personally, I think Thompsons make better general police weapons, and with drum magazines, they get the point across without firing a shot, sometimes.

You're right about that, they are an intimidating looking weapon alright. I would like to have one myself.

8 posted on 08/28/2002 12:59:04 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: rmmcdaniell
It's this kind of crap that makes most reasonably intelligent freedom loving people want to vomit. The drug warriors pass these federal "crack house" forfeiture laws for the express purpose of "shutting down the crack houses", and to forfeit the fruits of illegal operations.

Here we have some young adults going to a culinary school who might smoke a bit a weed, and now they want to use these fedewral forfeiture laws to steal a dorm away from a college?

And who IS this guy who thinks he can force a college to turn their backs on those who are looking to improve their lives by going to school? What does he think they're going to do with their new skills, manufacture massive amounts of munchies and sell them on the black market?

Apparently, the chief is a bit worried about who might be baking his donuts.

9 posted on 08/28/2002 1:01:22 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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And let's all hail the drug culture, correct?

No, I said 'Screw the JBT's.'

I have a problem with the ever increasing power given to law enforcement and the courts over American citizens when there are many more pressing issues that should be dealt with such as illegal immigration.

10 posted on 08/28/2002 1:01:57 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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fedewral = federal
11 posted on 08/28/2002 1:05:12 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Looking4Truth
Hey it's one of my favorite JBT's. Are you on the bong list or do you just troll for 'drug' threads?

Actually I was on a pro-druggies "bong" list but I never asked to be put on it and asked to be taken off. What is it with your holding in "high" regard a piece of polyurethane anyway?

As for trolling it looks like the poster of this thread was trolling for knee jerk reactions of JBT and you did not disappoint.

12 posted on 08/28/2002 1:06:16 AM PDT by Dane
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''It is an open-air drug market like we've never seen in the city,'' Chief William Fenniman said of the dormitory...
An open-air dormitory, in New Hampshire? Brrr.
13 posted on 08/28/2002 1:08:50 AM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking4Truth
I have a problem with the ever increasing power given to law enforcement and the courts over American citizens when there are many more pressing issues that should be dealt with such as illegal immigration.

Okay, I get it, druggies good, people who pick your vegetables and clean your toilets bad.

14 posted on 08/28/2002 1:11:08 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Looking4Truth
The semi-auto Thompsons are just "ugly" rifles. I was going to buy my grandmother a lightweight, aluminum one, for the house. Well made, efective when used, and all hell to look at the pointy end of.

Hope the PD wasn't too heavy handed there, though. But you know, police work is dangerous...especially when you think it's not going to be. Seems things were pretty out of hand there, and it was being sold, not just used. The ecstacy is no littly thing, however. You'd be stupid not to protect yourself first when spoiling those guys' day. That's a heavy mob business...not selling some farmers' veggies.
15 posted on 08/28/2002 1:13:44 AM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: PoorMuttly
Spelling failuer. Muttly out.
16 posted on 08/28/2002 1:15:25 AM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: Looking4Truth
I have a problem with the ever increasing power given to law enforcement and the courts over American citizens when there are many more pressing issues that should be dealt with such as illegal immigration.

I'd say a more pressing issue that we should all be concerned about IS the ever increasing power given to law enforcement and the courts over American citizens. I'd say on a scale of 1 to 10, that'd be a 10, whereas the problem with college age students smoking marijuana in their dorm rooms would be a 1. Immigration might rate a 3 or so.

But the wholesale disregard of the very principles upon which this country was founded isn't simply revolting, but incredibly wrong. What makes it even more troubling is that there are some here who agree wholeheartedly with these totalitarian tactics, and feel that these kids deserved to have machine guns pointed at them because they smoked marijuana.

I wonder if they would feel the same if it were THEIR kid with a machine gun pointed at them, and oops, the gun went off by itself. Then it'd just be tough luck, as we all know that LEO's who discharge their weapons "accidently" during a drug raid are NEVER held accountable. EVER.

17 posted on 08/28/2002 1:15:29 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Dane
Damn, I'm not even stoned today and all I can do is laugh at your posts. L8R.
18 posted on 08/28/2002 1:16:36 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: FormerLurker
Can't argue with you there. Priorities.
19 posted on 08/28/2002 1:17:42 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: Looking4Truth
Damn, I'm not even stoned today and all I can do is laugh at your posts. L8R

Why thank you, I will take that as a compliment.

20 posted on 08/28/2002 1:19:25 AM PDT by Dane
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