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To: Almondjoy
You must be a government employee, with 3 - 4 weeks vacation 12 sick days(and you use em all), operate at 15 to 20% less productivity than the private sector, have your reitierment paid for(PERS II) get to work late and leave early.

Don't stand near a building where govenment emplyees work because you will be stampeded to death at 4:30. Public employees get 20 to 25% more benefits than equivelent jobs in the private sector. Almost impossible to fire(unless you express conservative views.

I hve consulted in the private and public sector on productivity, compensation, and organization for many years. Middle management in the public sector is pathetic, which causes most of the low porductivity at the lower levels. Throw in the policical rascals at the top and your doomed. Happens in the private sector too, but then they go out of business.

How to reduce costs: Schools -- Vouchers
Department of Transportation - eliminate union wage requirement in contracting.
Have all state employees count off and eliminate every third one.


18 posted on 08/27/2002 4:47:43 PM PDT by stubernx98
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To: stubernx98
I'll try this again. Hmm I make a point and you assume I know none of that. I work in private.. do sales to business. Talk to the decision makers you consult all day long. Don't lecture me. What I will take you in a whim is that you are right.. Corporations did what they had to do in the late 80's early 90's which was trim the fat which gov't cannot seem to do.. streamline.. organize and cut down on big budget.. of course that means cutting jobs and seeing a much higher unemployment.. i would imagine at least a good percent jump.. never good for the private sector and the stock market.. who knows... besides this could lead into a much larger argument about the fiscal deficit which will be argued for centuries on exactly how much a deficit is the right one to have.
25 posted on 08/27/2002 9:42:52 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: stubernx98; hsmomx3
Gees... Get a clue, many of us in Oregon don't want as much government as we pay for. Personally I would like to see most state employees take 52 weeks of vacation and leave the rest of us the hell alone. Efficiency is the LAST thing that is needed.
37 posted on 08/28/2002 6:48:31 AM PDT by DeSoto
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