[Trident/Delta]

Hmmm.. When you can't leave the Kingdom, because there is an "exit visa" require and there is an inspection of your papers at the airport before you can board a plane, and I am not salking about security, I am talking about "papers" like passports and visas that are required to exit, i would hazard that then you are more or lessa "prisoner" there. Unlike the US, where the government has no direct say in whether or not you leave (the receiving country immigration wants to see a visa, but the departing country generally doesn't care) In KSA, you HAVE to have a visa to exit the country. Unless you have been there, (I lived there several years) I would recommend that you don't embarrass yourself.

Semper Fi

[JameRetief]

I'm not arguing about whether you can leave, I'm simply looking at the relationship of what constitutes kidnapping as it relates to the article's assertion. If someone isn't wanting to leave, it doesn't mean they are being held against their will, which is a necessary part of the definition of kidnapping. Whether or not they COULD leave is another issue.

[foreshadowed at waco]

You are correct about the 'prisoner' status of the Saudi people. Their exit visa requirement is the equivalent of the Berlin Wall. I visited West Germany in 1973 and the Wall was still up. I met an American student who'd been to the wall. He said that it was really wierd standing at the Wall and realizing that all the barbed wire, land mines, and sentries were put in place to keep people in.

All the Wahabists of the world are true fascists. They enslave the women and children within their own families and they seek to spread their religious slavery around the globe. They are a giant dark cloud on the horizon.