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Burton Probes Iraq Connection To Oklahoma Bombing
GOPUSA ^ | 8/26/02 | Carol Devine-Molin

Posted on 08/27/2002 9:59:21 AM PDT by Gopblond

God Bless Congressman Dan Burton (R-Indiana), chairman of the Government Reform Committee, who is currently conducting a congressional investigation into the mounting evidence that connects the Oklahoma City bombing with Iraqi sabotage. I am absolutely thrilled that the cacophony of voices, mine among them, begging for a thorough re-evaluation of the Oklahoma City bombing case, has been answered. This probe is absolutely imperative, given the nature of the suppressed materials and new information that has been emerging over the past few years. I have full confidence that Representative Burton, who is every bit a bulldog with a bone, will tenaciously grab hold and explore this controversial matter. There is increasing substantiation that Timothy McVeigh, and his co-conspirator, Terry Nichols did not commit this atrocity alone, but rather acted in tandem with Iraqi agents. "Committee lawyer Marc Chretien interviewed at least six people who claimed to have seen McVeigh keeping company with foreign-looking men in the days, even minutes, before the bombing on April 19, 1995" (James Patterson, The Indianapolis Star).

Part of the account being circulated is as follows: Neither McVeigh nor Nichols knew how to construct a bomb that would bring down the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. However, Nichols, who had a Filipino wife, traveled to the Philippines often and was able to hook-up with Islamic militants, including bomb-maker Ramzi Youssef, a pivotal character who was subsequently convicted of involvement with the1993 Twin Towers bombing. Reportedly, it was Youssef, a known Iraqi agent, that taught Nichols how to make a powerful fertilizer-type bomb. Pursuant to an account in the 4/15/02 edition of Insight Magazine, McVeigh's defense attorney, Stephen Jones, stated: "We went to the Philippines four times to investigate Terry Nichols' meetings with Ramzi Youssef and other known terrorists." Based on what he ascertained, Jones believes there is a "prima facie" case for Iraqi involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing. Interestingly, there were also reports that McVeigh was found to have Iraqi telephone numbers in his possession when he was apprehended by police.

The Oklahoma City bombing did not occur in a vacuum. In fact, about six weeks prior, a warning had been disseminated by the Feds that a "fatwa" had been issued (by Muslim clerics) ordering Islamic extremists to carry out terrorist strikes against Federal targets. Jayna Davis, a TV investigative reporter with NBC affiliate KFOR in Oklahoma City, came to believe that McVeigh and Nichols were associated with a local Jihad cell. She also garnered 22 eyewitness affidavits linking McVeigh and Nichols to several Middle Eastern men in the area, valuable information that the FBI refused to incorporate into their investigation.

Moreover, "Davis nailed down eyewitnesses who had put disgruntled Gulf-War veteran McVeigh in a tavern drinking beer four days before the blast with a former Gulf-War Iraqi soldier who worked for a property company" (James Patterson, The Indianapolis Star). Interestingly, just after the attack on the Murrah Building, an all points bulletin was issued for a "John Doe Number Two", who Davis believes was a former Iraqi soldier granted asylum here after the Gulf-War. Nothing ever became of that bulletin.

Respected individuals have led credence to the theory that Iraqi agents were involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, including attorney David Schippers, a well-known lawyer associated with the Clinton impeachment effort, and Larry Johnson, a former high level administrator with the State Department's Office of Counter-Terrorism. Moreover, a civil lawsuit is now pending, filed by the Judicial Watch organization, which indicates that: "Plaintiffs assert that the entire plot was, in whole or part, orchestrated, assisted technically and/or financially, and directly aided by agents of the Republic of Iraq". Judicial Watch also indicated that Interpol had linked Ramzi Youssef to the Oklahoma City bombing, as well.

From the get-go, it appears that the incredibly partisan Reno Justice Department purposely chose to ignore vital information that linked McVeigh and Nichols to foreign elements. It was much more advantageous for the Democrats to represent the Oklahoma City bombing as a purely domestic crime, perpetrated by so-called Right-wing extremists and malcontents. This was egregious demonization for political purposes, blaming the Conservatives movement that was a significant force to be reckoned with in Congress. Pursuant to his conniving ways, President Clinton was clearly looking for a political stick to beat the GOP about the head after they captured Congress in 1994.

In an editorial from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, it was stated by Ralph R. Reiland, Professor at Robert Morris University, that: "he (Clinton) pointed to 'hate-talk radio' as the culprit, the 'purveyors of hate and division' who 'leave the impression, by their very words, that violence is acceptable'. The enemy, in short, was Rush Limbaugh, not Ramzi Youssef". And there are similar sentiments reflected by political pundit Ann Coulter, in her book "Slander: Liberal Lies About The American Right", as she espoused: "When impeached former president Bill Clinton identified Rush Limbaugh as the cause of the Oklahoma City bombing, he unleashed all the typical liberal curse words for conservatives. He blamed 'loud and angry voices' heard 'over the airwaves in America' that were making people 'paranoid' and spreading hate" (pages 92-93).

It's almost laughable to think that the Liberals tried to place the blame of the Oklahoma City bombing on the Conservative movement. Mainstream Conservatives hold terrific core values such as belief in tax cutting, smaller, more efficient government, school vouchers, a strong, modern military, and support of Israel as the only real democracy in the Middle East. Or shall we blame the "hard-right" faction, comprised of both the Buchanan Brigade and the Libertarians that are largely "antiwar" isolationists types? Preposterous! The truth is that Liberal besmirchment of the various stripes of Conservatism, whether "mainstream" or "hard-right", is just plain silly and erroneous. In fact, no factions within the Conservative movement have ever advocated any type of violence against the Federal government. What Conservatives have underscored is the need to rein in the size and scope of government. There is nothing hateful about discussing flaws within the system. And the Conservatives are entitled to free-speech, just like any other group.

In actuality, extremists in America run the gambit from Right to Left in terms of ideology, from Neo-Nazi/Aryan Nation types to adherents of the FALN (a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group) and the radical pro-environmental movement. These Neo-Nazi/Aryan Nation crazies, which have no connection whatsoever with the Conservative movement, actually dovetail quite nicely with some elements of the fanatical Left such as the hard- core "Pro-Palestinian", "Anti-Globalization" and "Green" movements, and their inclination toward violence (as seen at various demonstrations including the protestation in Seattle against the World Trade Organization). There is a saying that the ultra-fringe Right and the ultra-fringe Left eventually converge, and I believe there is quite a bit of truth in those words. Where that Right/Left confluence takes place, you find the Anarchists bent on violence and destruction.

McVeigh appears to be somewhat of an anomaly who does not fall into any identifiable extremist group. Although McVeigh did indeed reference his outrage at the Branch Davidian "Waco" deaths, he also compared the Gulf War bombing of Iraq to his actions at Oklahoma City, certainly a strange juxtaposition of ideas. If he is amenable, imprisoned co-conspirator Terry Nichols might be able to shed further light on the events that led up to that horrific event in Oklahoma City, and the underlying motivation for their actions.

Lastly, if Congressman Burton is able to establish that Saddam Hussein's agents aided and abetted in the Oklahoma City bombing, which caused 168 deaths, does that, in fact, represent an incontrovertible "casus belli", a clear-cut justification for war?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blamestalkradio; clinton
It's revolting how Clinton tried to blame talk radio, Rush Limbaugh, and indirectly, the GOP, for what happened at Oklahoma City. He covered up possible Iraqi involvment.
1 posted on 08/27/2002 9:59:22 AM PDT by Gopblond
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To: Gopblond
...A coverup, which if true, has been continued by Bush.
2 posted on 08/27/2002 10:08:21 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Gopblond
The left political communist party here in the U.S. (known as the Democrats) make every attempt to smear Dan Burton and his efforts to bring any truth or fact to light, which is indicative of Dan's excellent instinctive investigative research. Keep up the good work, Congressman Burton!
3 posted on 08/27/2002 10:10:13 AM PDT by smiley
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To: onedoug
Dear, you're wrong that Bush has continued the cover-up. I'm sure that Burton is conducting the investigation with President Bush's full approval. If Iraq is involved, it helps Bush's Iraq war effort.
4 posted on 08/27/2002 10:15:48 AM PDT by Gopblond
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To: Gopblond
If Iraqi involvement is proven we need a large number of FBI officials tried for treason
5 posted on 08/27/2002 10:17:41 AM PDT by steve50
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To: steve50
If Iraqi involvement is proven we need a large number of FBI officials tried for treason

Since the FBI would have to come up with the evidence that would prove Iraqi involvement this will not happen.

Stay well - Stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

6 posted on 08/27/2002 10:28:47 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: harpseal
Or one of the "select committees" will take it behind closed doors and sort it out. God help us.
7 posted on 08/27/2002 10:32:43 AM PDT by steve50
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To: Gopblond
He's not wrong that Bush has continued the cover-up. He has. It was GHWB who allowed over three-hundred republican guards to migrate to this country after the Persian Gulf war. Guess where they were settled by the government? ...the Oklahoma City area. Bush, his father, and a great many other of our dear ruling elite (I call them globalists)are just as complicit in this as Clinton ever was.

What irks me is that people on this forum have been saying for a long time that there was Iraqi involvement at the highest level, and they were spurned as "tinfoil hat people". But let Dan Burton say the same thing, and the support comes out of the woodwork. ...Amazing, but predictable.

Party loyalists who place that loyalty ahead of the constitutional guarantees that this country was founded on, deserve exactly what they are going to get. Wallace was EXACTLY right. "There's not a dimes worth of difference between republicans and democrats. ...They all have the same ultimate agenda. ...The few members of each party who don't, are not privy to anything and wield no power.

8 posted on 08/27/2002 10:37:03 AM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: harpseal
If this were EVER proven - it would the final, devastating, enduring breakthrough on how incompetent, dishonest, and corrupt the Clinton administration was. Schoolchildren 100 years from now would talk about how WJC tried to blame this on americans for political purposes when he knew otherwise and knew he could get away with the cover-up since he owned all the players. He did not want to risk war so he payed off the B&&^%$%ds, put the fix in the FBI, and tarnished conservatives to boot. If this happens - there will be a cry so great that the Dems would NEVER recover. (So don't expect it to happen)
9 posted on 08/27/2002 10:37:54 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Gopblond
I would certainly hope you're right, but worry that Congress could so move only with Presidential approval. It's been very hard to keep any faith in the American government for a very long time.

My wife and I street-demonstrated here in LA for Dubya during the Florida election debacle, though I would say too, in the words of the elder Bush: "Let the chips fall where they may."

10 posted on 08/27/2002 10:43:07 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Ranger Drew
Your logic is really off. Neither Bush has been involved in a coverup. This was orchestrated by the Reno Justice Department. Dubya has been trying to straighten out the problems over at the FBI and the CIA, both incredibly inept agencies with no accountability. You just want to whine that the GOP and the Dem's are supposedly the same. You're off target in this particular discussion. It's the Clinton administration that was in charge of this coverup. And now the filth is rising to the surface.
11 posted on 08/27/2002 10:48:40 AM PDT by Gopblond
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To: Gopblond
WOW, another Congressional Investigation into government coverup. I'm still waiting for the murderous BATF and the FBI agents to be held accountable for killing kids and other innocent people at Waco TX, as well as the Ruby Ridge murders. Seriously though, I'm really not waiting. Some may say I am a pessimist but it is my sense that any investigation by any of those in DC is just a way to appear they are doing something about the corrupt government establishment. Although it's far from being funny, I have to laugh when I hear of some congressional committee getting puffed up in pursute of inforcing the law.
12 posted on 08/27/2002 11:00:27 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Gopblond
I'm afraid my logic, as you put it, is not "off" in the least. I was there and under orders to process these people. ...and this was done under GHWB's watch, and by his official policy directly after the war. The Bush/Clinton ties go way back to when the elder Bush was running the CIA and their funding operation (the import of illegal drugs into this country). You are correct on one point, though. Clinton was fully involved. This is how a nobody from Arkansas gets elected President. Why the elder Bush did not fight for the job. And why the younger Bush does not prosecute Clinton to the fullest extent of the law.

Not logic, Gopblond,...just facts. Until people like you pull their head from their 4th point of contact, these treasonous crimes will never come to full light. ...but in the meantime, feel free to worship at the alter of your party.

13 posted on 08/27/2002 11:07:04 AM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: Gopblond
Yup.Cooperation alright.
14 posted on 08/27/2002 5:06:01 PM PDT by onedoug
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