Posted on 08/27/2002 9:45:17 AM PDT by vance
Yes, there is something wrong. It's inaccurate. It should read, "Jew-hating supporter of bloodthirsy Arab scum ousted by loyal American Jewish Community". That picture looks pretty good to me.
It's the right of all Americans to take part in the election process of the US....even if they're Jews. Maybe you didn't learn that in whatever country you came from.
What country is that?
we hold the standard that registered citizens vote on our country's issues and elect the best representative. How do they do it in the country you are from?
I'm from the United States of America. In this country, even Jews have rights. Even the right to enter politics. That's because Jews are considered citizens in this country, not foreigners. That may be a shock to you, depending on the country you live in. Other than that, we also "hold the standard that registered citizens vote on our country's issues and elect the best representative." Sometimes that representative is considerate of the Jewish citizens and their concerns. Other times, like in the case of the incumbent who lost, they are Jew-haters. You may be more familiar with that type of person in your country.
Whoopie. In the USA it is the same. So what?
You keep bringing up jews and I did not even mention a religeon or race,
Just anticipating your concerns.
I as a citizen have the right to express my opinion that I have no responsibility for foreign governments like Israel or Plaestine
There's no argument about that, nor was that ever the subject of conversation. Is it your entire country that can't stay on track on a topic or is it just you?
and I want the fanatics on both sides to keep their rituials of murdering each other in their own damn country's sand box.
Your simplistic view, your moral "standards", your generalizations and moral relativism, as well as your concern about human life (even if it is in other areas of the world) is noted. In my country, the USA, the general population does not seem to have the same attitude towards others as you have in your country. You see, my fellow countrymen are intelligent people who value human life, who do not flippently refer to decent people like the Israelis as "fanatics", and do not call what the Israelis do (self-defense) murder. Perhaps either you or all the people in your country have a limited grasp of the English language.
In my country we are tiring of the gang warfare between the biblical enemys and now that both sides have nuclear rocks to throw at each other they are endangering the world and the safety of my country and I would like it stopped. what woild you like for the country that you come from?
As I told you before, I come from the USA. You haven't told me where you're from you. However, I find it interesting that you speak for your entire country (using the word "we" with such determination). I take it you're the leader of your country? What do they call you there?
In the USA, the general population seems to recognize who our enemies are and who our allies are. They seem to know who are the savage, bloodthirsty, lying murderers, and who the Israelis are. While they seem to want peace, they also seem to NOT want the Israelis to commit suicide in order to get it.
So, if your country would like to see it stopped, the answer is simple. Back the side with the greater moral claim. The USA has made that decision and is backing the Israelis. I wish you luck in whatever country you're from.
Then why are you in this thread? It concerns political events in MY country, the United States of America.
We have this antiquaited idea that we the people will choose through elected representatives of what and where we will offer our children to die for their country and not some foriegners suicide mission.
Nothing like that has happened in the US. In this case, all that has happened is that a Jew-hating supporter of bloodthirsty Arab scum has been defeated for re-election by her constituents...you know, "the kitchen table in little homes,little communities"...they have gone to the polls and decided. And they decided to get rid of the scum incumbent and elect a decent human being. Sorry you can't see that.
However if the forigners want to help make decisions on our internal issues
Sorry. Evidently, your command of English is worse than I thought. In this country, citizens made decisions on internal issues. Foreigners did not. Of course, in your country, Jews may be considered foreigners even if they were born there. Frankly, I don't know.
they must become a citizen speak our language respect our flag pay taxes and ask for nothing except the freedom guaranteed by the constitution and that is the only reason to go to war when the constitution,the country covered under it and any individual citizen or posession is attacked by enemys of the document domestic or foreign.
If you are going to post on an English-speaking board, you should really learn how to speak the language yourself. We have things called "commas" which make sentences easier to read. If you were a citizen of the US, you would fail your own test of citizenship, e.g., "speak our language".
We call our country a lady that is the strongest force on the face of the earth
In the USA, we are generally more humble than that by acknowleging that there is a force superior to our own. That is why we have the words "Under G-D" in our pledge of allegiance.
that could handle any enemy with instant defeat but the problem is the lady is not a bully and finds compassion faster than hate so I am very proud to be a part of this country and no my fellow citizens give me the same respect that I give them,it works very well you should give it a try in your country.
I didn't see that you gave anyone on this thread any respect, so that is what you got in return. It's pretty obvious you don't live in the USA. Where do you live?
Being humble has nothing to do with telling the truth about some people.
I fully understand what happened in the Georgia election.The citizens at the kitchen table in the small communities had their election degraded by foreigners and de facto representatives
Evidently, Jews are foreigners in your country. In this country, they are citizens with a right to comment on elections anywhere they are held within the US. If you know of specific foreigners or defacto representatives who committed the actions you speak of, please name them. If not, kindly respect the laws of the USA which do not treat Jews as second class citizens. I assume Jews in your country are treated differently.
that support fanatic countries out in the middle east
Jewish Americans do not support fanatic countries, they support Israel. Supporters of the incumbent however, do support fanatic countries.
and if you think this type of activity is beneficial to your country my opinion is that it is not beneficial to my country.
I still don't know what country you come from. Are you so ashamed of it that you can't tell me?
Disrespect? I have not made a single sentence that is disrespectful,
Your first post was very disrespectful, IMHO.
the disrespect comes from a line you wrote,'use moral thought to choose the side that is best then support it"
If you think it is disrespectful to think morally, then I doubt we'll be able to come to any agreement at all.
In my country the morals belong to individual and individual thinking instead of morals filtered through someones paid advertisements.In my country this choice is mine.
This is something we have in my country too. You can make whatever choice you want. If, however, it is an immoral choice, be prepared to pay the price. That is what happened in this election. The incumbent thought and spoke in an immoral manner and her constituents thought they could do better. They did. No foreigners were involved to my knowledge. If you think they were, let's have some names....otherwise, I'll assume you don't know what you're talking about.
I don't see any "separation" based on this claim. Maybe you could point it out to me.
the majority of the citizens in my country reject and make laws against anyone that uses our public offices to promote hate and discord between the citizens,
You mean like the incumbent and her father?
The Georgia election is the epitome of hate filled politics.
Again, by the incumbent and only by the incumbent. Therefore, if you were a citizen of the USA, you should be pleased to see her removed from office.
and most citizens relate the attack to the "sand box fanaticism"
I don't know where you get your information to be able to speak so authoritatively on what "most citizens" relate to, but my hope is that my fellow Americans realize the bloodthirsty murdering Arabs aren't "sand box fanatics", but are merely following the dictates of Islam.
so until another set of morals come along in my house and my country my family will be the number one priority for this citizen just like in your country Ben.............
Here in the US, my country is high on my list of priorities too. Amoung other things, that means getting rid of Jew-hating scum who support the bloodthirsty, murderous Islamists. Especially if that scum happens to be an elected official.
That's the first time you've said so.
Now here is where we differ, I don't consider Arab people Blood sucking scum as you like to state in almost every post.
Well, goody for you. I was referring to the murderers and those who support them. Arabs who are opposed to murder are different....and rare. BTW, there is another way we're different; I am not ignorant about Israel, the Middle East, the USA, or it's citizens.
Now you consider Israel the utmost moral authority in the world
Do you enjoy putting words in other people's mouths? It seems you do.
and consider the state a democracy
Obviously, we have different definitions of "democracy" if you feel Israel is not one.
while it has "attached" it self to America and uses the country as a surrogate and theirself the"pilot fish".
That's your perception and, unsurprisingly, one I disagree with. Moreover, it is emotional and unsupported by facts. For example, it was the USA, not Israel, that pushed Israel to make concessions to the bloodthirsty, murdering scum Arafat.
and influencing elections in the USA
Another emotionalism unsupported by facts.
the Israeli religeous state
Another statement based on ignorance. Israel is NOT a religious state. The Chief Rabbi has moral authority, not political authority.
is no better than the Arabs
I would love to see how you arrive at this comparison.
when indeed Israel should have nomore political power in the USA than the Vatican.
Israel doesn't have any political power in the USA. Israel doesn't get politicians elected. However, American citizens (at least some) do consider Jew-hatred to be a negative in a politician...and when that politician expresses their hatred with some diatribe about Israel...well, some people consider then when voting. But that hardly constitutes Israel having "political power".
Does the US constitution state that the Government of the United States shall not sponsor state funded religeon?
So what? We still get Christmas off. Where do you see that the US government is sponsoring state funded religion? The aid is military and financial in nature. Moreover, if we didn't give the aid, we would probably be paying about $20 a gallon for oil. Think about this, Sherlock....imagine an Israel unsupported by our aid. The bloodthirsty, murdering Arab scum (who have convinced themselves that the only reason they have been unable to defeat the Jewish State is because of US aid) would probably attack. And what would Israel do? Without US aid and the US-made weapons it buys? Well, if I were in Sharon's position I wouldn't hesitate to use the 250 - 400 nuclear devices that I've got under wraps. Wouldn't you?
To be free of hate is a virtue.
How would you know? Making statements such as the ones you've made above revealing your ignorance is hardly a testimony to your "freedom from hate".
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