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Freepers. It is Time to Heal Our Wounds
Badjoe
| 8-27-02
| Joe Phillips
Posted on 08/27/2002 4:40:53 AM PDT by BADJOE
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To: one_particular_harbour
As to the Registered thing, I'm reminded of the tactics of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson as they are employed against people who haven't done wrong. Of course, the people protested eventually cave to the caterwauling, just to get them to shut up.I'd rather not dwell on the "Registered thing" but all sides deserve to be heard, IMO.
I can respect that the length of time one has been a Freeper may matter, but it should not create privileges so special as to harm other Freepers.
Registered is just another screenname and he is no more important than any other person here. The fact that he is treated so is bothersome and I don't believe it does much for the "healing" that is sought right now.
I personally stopped my monthly because of Registered and what he was getting away with even before the act that got him suspended.
Now it appears that not only is he is being begged back, but logic says he will be given free reign to do whatever he pleases since banning or suspending him will be unacceptable. What else can someone conclude from all of this? I can guarantee that this is not a healing gesture for a lot of people who have been on the receiving end of his antics.
I also noticed that he rarely posted any kind of substantive thought; only cartoons and jabs at people throughout a thread. I am at a loss to understand why he is "needed" so badly, but that is for those who "need" him and doesn't really concern me.
I had to get this out of my system and I intend to let the topic of Registered go. I don't care what the man does. If he returns to FR and and picks up where he left off in his usual way or worse, without hindrance, I will probably never reinstate my contributions.
Rant over..........
To: Taliesan
or you are conceding to keep the donations up (it isn't clear exactly why you conceded; there is no indication you actually were persuaded by argument that some of the moderation is bad.)Oh, here we go. Next thing ya know the "dark side" will be saying they cut their own ears off just to make it look good. ; * )
To: bvw
Who, Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan? No, they're not. They're radicals. They are way further to the left than Bob Barr and John Ashcroft are to the right. Both Barr and Ashcroft are pretty far to the right, but they work within the system and they accept it, even when they get voted out of office, as both of them did. Sharpton and Farrakhan were never elected to anything.
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Registered is just another screenname and he is no more important than any other person here. The fact that he is treated so is bothersome and I don't believe it does much for the "healing" that is sought right now. Wasn't he a creator of "Sore Loserman"? That is a pretty big deal, if you ask me.
To: wimpycat
Sharpton's said to be running for President. My own selection of Republican exmaples were not a good parallel, but still Sharpton, at least, is a regular Democrat. Louie Farrakhan, to white Democrats is a radical, but not to many blacks.
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posted on
08/27/2002 7:57:55 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: KLT
LOL - thanks for the SoullessTrain. Good job.
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posted on
08/27/2002 7:58:07 AM PDT
by
lodwick
To: southern rock
Wasn't he a creator of "Sore Loserman"? Well......not exactly. I don't want to get into that. Maybe someone else can explain or you can research it yourself.
But nonetheless, that should not give him a pass on bad behavior. Period !!!!!!!!!
To: southern rock
Wasn't he a creator of "Sore Loserman"? There's a great thread that discusses the history of that logo alteration. While concieved by L. N. Smithee, a number of Freepers spent the next few hours giving it graphic reality. Smithee "thanked" Registered as his version was amongst the first he saw. Registered created his version independently based on Smithee's inspiration, and it did get the most traffic, but he never claimed sole authorship that I have seen and has given way for shared credit as some others developed the same thing simultaneously.
To: bvw
Al Sharpton is a joke, and the vast majority of black people know it, too. You're taking him more seriously than black people are. They're just letting him trot out and speak his piece, but he ain't going anywhere.
To: BADJOE
Welcome back!
To: wimpycat
Oh, I think he is more than a joke, but also a thing foisted on the blacks by the vile passive "progressive" racists of the NYC media.
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posted on
08/27/2002 8:18:08 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: MizSterious
It may well have been parody.......but I thought it was 'real'. So not ALL understand that type of humor, I guess.
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posted on
08/27/2002 8:19:00 AM PDT
by
justshe
To: dubyagee
Next thing ya know the "dark side" will be saying they cut their own ears off just to make it look good. ; * )Worked for this guy... at least in the long run!
To: southern rock
Wasn't he a creator of "Sore Loserman"? That is a pretty big deal, if you ask me.CPL BAUM was the creator of the "Sore Loserman" notion.
I made some graphic changes including changing the Democrat star to a tear drop.
Registered designed the last version which became the F.R. standard for the concept.
In short, it was a "team" effort entirely and as such the credit IMHO goes to F.R. generally and CPL BAUM specifically, notwithstanding my friend "Registered"s graphic brilliance.
Registered has done way better things since than. He's a good man whom I respect greatly.
He will be the first to tell you that he should not be revered.
To: BADJOE
Badjoe...
I for one will be glad when this "meism" is over with. It is tiring, boring, and of no value. Dragging it on and on deadens everyones sensibilities. Good intent is ruined by boorishness.
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posted on
08/27/2002 8:26:07 AM PDT
by
cynicom
To: bvw
But he still is "fringe" who is so out of touch with reality that his initiatives will never see the light of day, unless they happen to be reasonable, which I seriously doubt. As a matter of fact, if he ever did have something reasonable to say, nobody would listen to him because he's so radical and ridiculous. Any good ideas will be co-opted by someone more mainstream.
To: justshe
He posted parody-lyrics to popular songs, too. Did you think they were the original lyrics? Have you ever read the Onion? Do you think they're reporting the real news?
That's what parody is. You take one part of something already in existence, add a good-sized dollop of silliness, and you have a hot cup of parody. Some is more delicious than others, but it always requires a sense of humor to both produce it and appreciate it. Registered, PJComix and others have used the same recipe for years. (Although I admit, Al Gore might not have thought "Sore-Loserman" was as hilarious as we did....)
I'm betting that the only people who didn't see Fresno's parody for what it was were the people who really, really wanted him gone. Now he is.
To: MizSterious
I'm not sure were Registered, et al have gone, but I have seen Lazamataz post at
FreeSpeech.com. I don't think the posters there are AFers; actually, I think they mostly debate with DUers. So many factions, so little time...
To: justshe; MizSterious
In retrospect, FDA regrets any confusion his parody post brought to those not closely following the banter between the VD trial watchers...for that, he apologizes...but...he does not apologize for objecting to the heavy handed/one sided Moderation of threads in the Smokey Back Room...no profanity, racism, violence....better add...jokes at the owner...WOW
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posted on
08/27/2002 8:39:55 AM PDT
by
Krodg
To: wimpycat
Any good ideas will be co-opted by someone more mainstream. After Henry Hyde and the House Managers finished their actions in the House, we expected similar co-option by Trent Lott and others. Alas, sometimes being mainstream is so important that First Principles are forgotten.
The question for conservatives of all stripe in Republican Party politics is always: Do we wish to join the Rinos or replace them in influence.
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