Posted on 08/26/2002 8:16:41 AM PDT by JediGirl
DETROIT -- A man tried to sell his 6-year-old daughter to customers of a near east side party store, according to Detroit police.
According to investigators, the unidentified suspect and the girl were riding on a moped when they pulled up to the Chene-Trombly market at Edsel Ford service drive and Mt. Elliott late Saturday night.
The man allegedly got off of the bike and tried to sell the girl to customers of the store. One customer told WDIV-TV in Detroit that the man wanted $50 for the girl and planned to use the money to buy alcohol, the station reported.
A customer told a worker in the store and he called police.
Other customers subdued the man until officers arrived. One man struck the suspect to prevent him from leaving, WDIV-TV reported, while others protected the girl from the growing, angry crowd.
But the witnesses left once officers arrived and police said that without their testimony to confirm the story, they cannot pursue charges.
The suspect was released because of a lack of evidence.
The girl's mother was away at school at the time and unaware of the incident, WDIV-TV reported.
Authorities have placed the girl in foster care.
A collection really isn't necessary. A few of the moderators have been trying to do that free gratis for some time now.
my short term mem. must be shot cos i don't even remember him asking ;)
Try reading your replies. You'll find it there. No need to rely on memory, short term or otherwise.
Apologies. I do occasionally get up from my computer and go out leaving the thread to itself sometimes and don't always catch all or some of the replies. A PM would have sufficed in telling me you wished off the list. Sorry.
-->Then why would they be concerned and tell the storekeeper.
It sounds to me like poor police work instead of loser witnesses. The cops have to inform most people who are not used to witnessing crimes the way the system works...
Ever heard of fascism/authoritarianism? Btw I assume you will be executing the CEOs and employees of Budweiser, marlboro, etc as well since their drugs cause more problems (deaths, and monetary costs to society) than all illicit drugs combined. Have a nice day.
First of all, I never said crack was SAFER than alcohol and nicotine. I said they both have far most costs to society at the current time than it does. This is what I'm talking about. You kids open your mouths and spout the most inane unsupportable hogwash and then wonder why you get 0.08% of the vote in the Presidential election. Given the destruction that drugs wage on our citizens, the drug trafficker is no better than a serial killer, and I think public execution is being generous.
First of all, I am a registered republican and supported the RLC. I voted for Bush in 2000, Keyes in the primaries. Second, drug trafficking has NOTHING TO DO with being a serial killer. One is taken by choice, the other by force. If you do not understand this logic, your rationale is seriously impaired. Second, all illicit drugs COMBINED kill less than 1/10th of what alcohol does each year. Alcohol (excluding the cost of the drug war from tax dollars) has 3-4x the economic costs of all illicit drugs COMBINED. I'd prefer torture, then execution, but I'll settle for execution. You'd be amazed at how the level of drug use and abuse will plummet after a few public hangings of these monsters. So go wax poetic about "liberty" and "freedom" to smoke crack and I'll continue advocating for the death of drug traffickers. You guys really make me laugh. I'm surprised you haven't called me a -gasp- "statist".
And you wonder why I assert that you are a authoritarian fascist.
I guess our founding father's were loonytarians too, seeing all the drug laws that were around.
As for the facts. Addictive Qualities of Popular Drugs
Comparing Addictive Qualities of Popular Drugs (Higher score indicates more serious effect) |
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Drug | Dependence | Withdrawal | Tolerance | Reinforcement | Intoxication |
Nicotine | 6 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 2 |
Heroin | 5 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 |
Cocaine | 4 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 4 |
Alcohol | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 6 |
Caffeine | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
Marijuana | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
Withdrawal: Presence and severity of characteristic withdrawal symptoms.
Reinforcement: A measure of the substance's ability, in human and animal tests, to get users to take it again and again, and in preference to other substances.
Tolerance: How much of the substance is needed to satisfy increasing cravings for it, and the level of stable need that is eventually reached.
Dependence: How difficult it is for the user to quit, the relapse rate, the percentage of people who eventually become dependent, the rating users give their own need for the substance and the degree to which the substance will be used in the face of evidence that it causes harm.
Intoxication: Though not usually counted as a measure of addiction in itself, the level of intoxication is associated with addiction and increases the personal and social damage a substance may do.
Source: Jack E. Henningfield, PhD for NIDA, Reported by Philip J. Hilts, New York Times, Aug. 2, 1994 "Is Nicotine Addictive? It Depends on Whose Criteria You Use."
Tobacco | 430,7001 |
Alcohol | 110,6402 |
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs | 32,0003 |
Suicide | 30,5754 |
Homicide | 18,2725 |
All Licit & Illicit Drug-Induced Deaths | 16,9266 |
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin | 7,6007 |
Marijuana | 08 |
Source:(1996): "Smoking-Attributable Mortality and Years of Potential Life Lost," Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (Atlanta, GA: Centers for Disease Control, 1997), May 23, 1997, Vol. 46, No. 20, p. 449.
Source: "Number of deaths and age-adjusted death rates per 100,000 population for categories of alcohol-related (A-R) mortality, United States and States, 1979-96," National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, from the web at http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/databases/armort01.txt, last accessed Feb. 12, 2001, citing Alcohol Epidemiologic Data System, Saadatmand, F., Stinson, FS, Grant, BF, and Dufour, MC, "Surveillance Report #52: Liver Mortality in the United States, 1970-96" (Rockville, MD: National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, Division of Biometry and Epidemiology, December 1999).
Source: Lazarou, J, Pomeranz, BH, Corey, PN, "Incidence of adverse drug reactions in hospitalized patients: a meta-analysis of prospective studies," Journal of the American Medical Association (Chicago, IL: American Medical Association, 1998), 1998;279:1200-1205, also letters column, "Adverse Drug Reactions in Hospitalized Patients," JAMA (Chicago, IL: AMA, 1998), Nov. 25, 1998, Vol. 280, No. 20, from the web at http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v280n20/ffull/jlt1125-1.html, last accessed Feb. 12, 2001.
Source: Murphy, Sheila L., "Deaths: Final Data for 1998," National Vital Statistics Reports, Vol. 48, No. 11 (Hyattsville, MD: National Center for Health Statistics, July 24, 2000), Table 10, p. 53, from the web at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvs48_11.pdf .
Source: Murphy, Sheila L., "Deaths: Final Data for 1998," National Vital Statistics Reports, Vol. 48, No. 11 (Hyattsville, MD: National Center for Health Statistics, July 24, 2000), Table 10, p. 53, from the web at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvs48_11.pdf .
Source: Murphy, Sheila L., Centers for Disease Control, "Deaths: Final Data for 1998,", National Vital Statistics Reports, Vol. 48, No. 11 (Hyattsville, MD: National Center for Health Statistics, July 24, 2000), pp. 1, 10, from the web at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvs48_11.pdf .
Source: Robyn Tamblyn, PhD; Laeora Berkson, MD, MHPE, FRCPC; W. Dale Jauphinee, MD, FRCPC; David Gayton, MD, PhD, FRCPC; Roland Grad, MD, MSc; Allen Huang, MD, FRCPC; Lisa Isaac, PhD; Peter McLeod, MD, FRCPC; and Linda Snell, MD, MHPE, FRCPC, "Unnecessary Prescribing of NSAIDs and the Management of NSAID-Related Gastropathy in Medical Practice," Annals of Internal Medicine (Washington, DC: American College of Physicians, 1997), September 15, 1997, 127:429-438, from the web at http://www.acponline.org/journals/annals/15sep97/nsaid.htm, last accessed Feb. 14, 2001, citing Fries, JF, "Assessing and understanding patient risk," Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology Supplement, 1992;92:21-4.
Source: Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN), available on the web at http://www.samhsa.gov/; also see Janet E. Joy, Stanley J. Watson, Jr., and John A. Benson, Jr., "Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base," Division of Neuroscience and Behavioral Research, Institute of Medicine (Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1999), available on the web at http://www.nap.edu/html/marimed/; and US Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration, "In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling Petition" (Docket #86-22), September 6, 1988, p. 57.
A 1998 report by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) and the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA) estimated the economic costs of alcohol abuse in the United States to be $148.02 billion in 1992, 80% ($119.32 billion) of which were due to alcohol-related illness (including health care expenditures, impaired productivity and premature death). To contrast, illegal drug abuse cost a total of $97.66 billion in 1992, of which less than 40% ($38.71 billion) was due to drug-related illness or premature death. This figure includes $4.16 billion in HIV/AIDS and Hepatitis treatment costs. Sixty percent (60%) of drug costs were due to drug-related law enforcement, incarceration and crime. Only 3% of drug costs were from victims of drug-related crime.
Source: National Institute on Drug Abuse and National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism. The Economic Costs of Alcohol and Drug Abuse in the United States, 1992 (Washington, DC: US Department of Health and Human Services, May 1998), Table 1.1, p. 1-3 and Table 4.1, p. 4-2. When examining the medical affects of marijuana use, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded, "A careful search of the literature and testimony of the nation's health officials has not revealed a single human fatality in the United States proven to have resulted solely from ingestion of marihuana. Experiments with the drug in monkeys demonstrated that the dose required for overdose death was enormous and for all practical purposes unachievable by humans smoking marihuana. This is in marked contrast to other substances in common use, most notably alcohol and barbiturate sleeping pills. The WHO reached the same conclusion in 1995.
Source: Shafer, Raymond P., et al, Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding, Ch. III, (Washington DC: National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse, 1972); Hall, W., Room, R. & Bondy, S., WHO Project on Health Implications of Cannabis Use: A Comparative Appraisal of the Health and Psychological Consequences of Alcohol, Cannabis, Nicotine and Opiate Use, August 28, 1995, (Geneva, Switzerland: World Health Organization, March 1998
Umm... that's called terrorism. If you can't see the difference between dumping a bucket of LSD in the town water supply, and simply decriminalizing it so that people who WISH to do it can do so in peace without being arrested, then I am not surprised you are a drug warrior.
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