Posted on 08/25/2002 7:06:30 PM PDT by Incorrigible
-- from bonesmccoy
First, the implied threats and attempts to intimidate, recapped here.
Then the constant whining to JimRob.
Now this.
Congratulations, you've outdone even yourself. That is outrageous
So, you're suggesting the CDC is in league w/Al Qaeda?? Since the CDC is refusing to offer smallpox vaccine to the general populace, they must be suspect!
And, since the CDC says that even those of us previously vaccinated against sm-pox have little to no immunity left, we'd all have to get revaccinated (apparently every 7-10 yrs to keep a strong immunity).
"They" have not tried to make us give her the pertussis, but she starts kindergarden this year and they may raise a stink if they notice her records do not include pertussis. I don't care - there is no way she will ever have another pertussis shot.
Right?
Well, like I said in the other thread, once the lawyers get involved, scientific clarity tends to dissipate.
I have become convinced that there are extenuating circumstances (heavy use of hair dye being just one) that lead to autoimmune disease beyond silicone breast implants if indeed there's any link between the two at all! Yes, junk science and greedy lawyers led to the Dow Corning train wreck. I don't understand women who get cosmetic implants anyway but that's a whole other subject.
I agree with childhood vaccinations. I would suggest (though not stridently) that parents push the timetable for injections back by 6 months but that's about it. I just figured I throw a little red meat into the cage with this article.
I've already posted a ton of messages and started multiple threads on the smallpox issue.
Roughly 1 in a 500,000 doses end up getting polio from the oral polio vaccine. This is why we ended use of the oral polio vaccine two years ago.
You know NOTHING regarding vaccines. We're already had this discussion and you are continuing to post your rhetoric here. Why?
Care to join the rest of the 21st Century?
No DOCTOR the LIVE VACCINE WAS NOT USED IN THE 1950's now was it? I think I'm right on that. Second onset of Quadriplegia was at age 35 in 1985 not in the 1950's no vaccine taken for POLIO within 30-35 years. Third DOCTOR LOOK AT INFORMATION on TRANSVERSE MYELITIS. What is it linked to? Does most information not include Vaccines??? Well doctor?? Does it not also say POILO? She as I took both the Salk and Sabian vaccine. But the live vaccine was not in production till she was 10 years old or 1960 era right?
BTW the POLIO possibility was discovered in a Physical Rehabilation Center with a good national reputation. I saw the onset happen with my own two eyes. It took one hour from walking to quadriplegia. There is nothing not one thing I have posted in this thread that is not aviable at many reputable sources. Maybe she had mild Polio before even getting the Salk vaccine we simply do not know nor neither do you. She had minor limb dysfunction as early as 6-7 years old 1956-57 along in there.
You are a doctor you must know Polio can and does come back later in life and does more Neurological Damage. Transverse Myleitis is indeed linked to Polio and the Polio vaccine. If the symptoms were 30 years delayed from previous occurance would it not be relapse? BTW no other test showed cause for this.
I don't call what has been posted in here irresponsible but rather experiences of some who have seen for themselves bad reactions.
As a point in this manner you will also find many shrinks and GP's who will dispense SSRI's like candy never telling patient about their dangers and yes doctor their are risk. Don't tell me their aren't you wern't there for hell week. Many complications come from doctors not doing simple medical history workups and it's relationship to the pharmacology involved which points to conditions SSRI's would not be prudent for treatment.
You see I know one common link to Serotonin Syndrome and anxiety disorders. You do not enhance someones very dysfunctional sensory receptor, transmission, and interpitation system with SSRI's without extreme caution. A common dysfunction I share with my wife is Vestibular Dysfunction hers due to quadriplegia mine due to allergies. Vestibular Dysfunction is a cause of Anxiety Disorder. I can back it up. It's been suspect since the mid 1970's found by a research shrink/ Neurologist and now backed up by Vestibular research. The Doctor? Harold Levinson. Go tell this to your Shrink friends and listen to them laugh and trust me they will. Then go on line and see for yourself the links of Vestibular Dysfunction to Cognitive Behavioral problems. Both of us it seems are SSRI intollorant. Yet I fought against doctors who said the SSRI will not cause reactions both of us had to them including Dysreflexia.
If a vaccine or a medication produces allergic reaction it is best to stop the vaccine till further investigation is done in that person. And that is what is being talked about here individual cases of reactions where the ounce of prevention my be worse than the illness itself or risk may be lower of not ever catching that virus or whatever than continuing a course of treatment in a patient where bad reactions have occured.
Now just for the record and you can ask ALB. on this matter. I used to be on these threads saying there was no or little risk in SSRI's.
That is why I brought SSRI's up this up the very same attitude exist in the medical community on vaccines as it does with SSRI's. Yet the discussions I had with him and many other Freepers on this very matter likely save my wife's life. You are a doctor you should know better than to wholesale dismiss this discussion as nonsense. Calling for the safest form of treatment and looking into or reviewing complications is the foundations of medical science.
Remember the first rule. Do no harm. I have ran into many who long ago forgot that. I have also ran into good doctors who take the time to keep themselves up to date. Let's go back to where in 1985 when the onset of quadriplegia hit my wife. The very first questions the Neurologist asked concerned vaccines. She had not taken any in over 5 years for any reason. The last injection was 5 years earlier for a simple TB test to get a health card.
Grow up and go talk to your physician. I'm not going to spend hours each day trying to address your mistaken views. Your scientific arguments are weak and I've already had multiple email messages with you regarding your conduct. good day.
My children are NOT preventing their child from being vaccinated. They are just doing them ONE at a time to lessen his reaction to them. It was the giving of FOUR at one time that made Matthew so sick. When you have a known family history of bad reactions it is a WISE parent that uses a degree of caution. By doing ONE at a time they can best determine which one caused ADVERSE maybe threatening reactions.
Just because it is the NORM does NOT make it right for everyone. NOT every one is 'average'.
We have a family history of BAD reactions to medicines.
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