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To: Ford Fairlane
I jammed one on the range using an underpowered reload.My stupidity for using reloads in a Glock.I frequently fire a Colt Series 80/Mk4 Officer's Model and a Browning Hi-Power 9mm.I have never had either jam other than an occasional stovepipe,easily cleared.Police departments are loathe to authorize single action autos,in the modern vein of acomodating the lowest common denominator rather than demanding excellence.I don't see the great advantage to the Glock "safe action trigger"-it is no improvement over single action.The whole DAO thing started over police agencies irresponsible jerks in the last ten years or so.I learned to fire a .45 auto in the service at age 18 and it is still my favorite.
21 posted on 08/23/2002 4:24:40 PM PDT by steamroller
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To: steamroller
The Colt .45 rules. I started carrying 9mm's because .45 ammo was hard to get in some countries outside the U.S.

Those underpowered reloads can be a b!tch. I had to fix a Browning BDM that a guy blew up shooting reloads that he made without knowing what he was doing. If he hadn't been wearing glasses he would have lost both eyes. The barrel was bulged so bad I had to cut the takedown lever apart with a dremel tool to get the gun apart.

40 posted on 08/23/2002 9:51:02 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: steamroller
I don't see the great advantage to the Glock "safe action trigger"-it is no improvement over single action.

The Glock's action is AFAIK completely unique. Indeed, I would like to see the terms "Single Action (SA)" and "Double Action (DA)" replaced with four terms, defined as follows:

Single Action
Nearly all of the energy for the hammer is imparted during cocking; pulling the trigger does not add any appreciable energy to the hammer.
Double Action
All of the energy for the hammer is imparted by pulling the trigger. On any gun I'd call double-action (see below), repeated trigger pulls produce repeated hammer strikes.
Intermediate Action
Some of the energy for the hammer is imparted by cocking, but some is added by the trigger. IAO pistols tend to have shorter trigger pulls than DAO's, but they cannot repeat-strike a primer in case of a misfire.
Glock Action
Much of the energy for the first shot comes from the first trigger pull. Unlike most DAO or IAO pistols which decock or half-decock themselves after each shot, however, the Glock remains fully cocked as the action is cycled. Fully releasing the trigger will cause the Glock to be half-decocked. Releasing it only slightly, however, will reset the sear mechanism while leaving the hammer cocked, allowing for what is almost a single-action trigger pull for the follow-on shots.
Comparing Glock Action to DAO, SA/DA, and SAO pistols... The Glock's 'trigger safety' has only three rules for observation; even a novice should be able to master them: What's so "advanced" about that?
43 posted on 08/24/2002 3:40:59 AM PDT by supercat
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