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Giuliani in LA Tomorrow for Bill Simon For Governor
www.simonforgovernor.com ^ | 08/21/2002 | self

Posted on 08/21/2002 7:38:39 PM PDT by kellynla

Tomorrow (Thursday, August 22) in Los Angeles Bill Simon will be joined by America's Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, for a public appearance.

Please join us, bring your Bill Simon signs, wear your Bill Simon colors, buttons, and t-shirts. And don't forget to email your friends about it!

Time: 9:45am Location: Sheriff Substation 5019 E. 3rd St. Los Angeles, CA 90022-1632

Come out and show your support!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; simoncalifornia
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To: My Favorite Headache
In CA the only polls that matter are on November 5. And on November 6 when Simon simonizes the Dimwit you can congratulate us for our victory.
41 posted on 08/22/2002 5:57:03 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: goldstategop
When you need help you know who your true friends are.

Yes, you do!

42 posted on 08/22/2002 6:39:18 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: My Favorite Headache
This race is going to be a blow out if the polls mean anything.

I agree! I think Davis is a dead duck ... GO SIMON!

43 posted on 08/22/2002 6:41:16 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Theodore R.
I presume that the Democrat registration edge in CA is NOW at least 2-1, right?

Democrats have just under 45% and Republicans have just over 35% (about a 10 pt split). It's 6.8 million Dems to 5.3 million Reps ... nowhere near 2-1. It's not even 3-to-2, more like 4-to-3.

44 posted on 08/22/2002 6:46:09 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Finally, some positive PR for Simon.

Don't expect it to last ... the media knows that Simon is a threat to Davis, and they would rather have a corrupt liberal than an honest conservative.

Go Simon!!!!!!

45 posted on 08/22/2002 6:49:51 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
So, the Democrats must be sticking together since they routinely win nearly all statewide races in CA. Are many Republicans just sitting out the elections in disgust? Undoubtedly Dan Lungren did not get nearly all the Republican vote in 1998.
46 posted on 08/22/2002 6:58:32 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Coop
"Geez. Hadn't even heard a hint of this one"

Me neither. Good on Rudy. Holding it at a Sheriff's substation too. Not a bad spot, considering crime is up in California...

47 posted on 08/22/2002 7:32:53 AM PDT by eureka!
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To: eureka!
Bump for Bill and Rudy!
48 posted on 08/22/2002 7:45:40 AM PDT by Coop
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To: Coop
THe more the media says Bill SImon can't win the more hopeful I become because this means they are WORRIED and feel the need to LIE their way through this campaign season...I wish Rudy would camp out in California from now until November...timing is great too with 9/11 anniversary coming up! Bill Simon will WIN - I just KNOW it!
49 posted on 08/22/2002 8:43:25 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: kellynla
Anyway to get Simon off the ticket and run Guiliani?
50 posted on 08/22/2002 8:50:40 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Theodore R.
So, the Democrats must be sticking together since they routinely win nearly all statewide races in CA. Are many Republicans just sitting out the elections in disgust? Undoubtedly Dan Lungren did not get nearly all the Republican vote in 1998.

Here's my opinion on this matter. While I'm not an expert, I have run several local campaigns and am actively involved in grassroots and professional politics. More important, I'm a conservative and I don't believe we need to compromise our principles to win. I say that because some of my liberal Republican friends will disagree with what I have to say.

Republicans have done poorly for the last few years for three primary reasons: Democrats have a lot more money; Republicans have not identified who their new base is; and Republicans have not learned how to effectively communicate with our new electorate.

1) Money. While Republicans have historically been able to win with less because of our strong grassroots organization, we no longer have a strong grassroots organization and therefore the money the Democrats have is more important now than in the past.

2) Republicans have failed to identify that we have a new base of voters. Our base includes the hardcore conservative Republicans who will vote Republican or not at all. The key point here is: in 1998, they voted not at all. They stayed home. In 2000 in the primary, conservatives came to the polls in droves, but by the general were disgusted with a variety of things and just didn't show up. Karl Rove, who I don't particularly care for, did make an excellent point: Christians stayed home in 2000 and almost cost GWB the election.

Our new base of voters includes our conservative base -- which we must secure early with a right of center candidate with a strong moral character. I believe that Bill Simon has done that. The second part of our new base is the working families of all races, primarily blue collar workers who are concerned about their high taxes, but still want safe streets; they may be pro-life or not, but they don't want their daughters being taught how to put a condom on a cucumber. They are church-goers, but more so now than two years ago. They are not the rich, the elite, the post-graduates. They move from the city to the suburbs so their kids are safer and they have a backyard and some trees. They don't always vote, but will if they have someone to vote for, or get mad enough. Unfortunately, the Republicans still think that we're the party of big business and the rich. Well, big business and the rich are giving their money to DEMOCRATS!!!!!

3) Communication. Republicans have not learned how to communicate with the 21st century voter. We have the right ideas and the right principles -- ideas and principles that families agree with. But we talk hard facts and figures, statistics and logics, when people need value-driven words. We talk over people's heads. This isn't to say that people are stupid (though some of them are); the problem is that we don't use their language to communicate. We talk about the "Gross National Product" rather than how taxes impact their specific family. We need to use the values and images and messages that people are receptive to, and modify the communication tool based on where in the state we're communicating. The Central Valley has different priorities than Orange County. There is no "one-size-fits-all" medium or message; we need to re-learn local politics.

As an aside, when we learn to effectively communicate, our grassroots will start to grow. Effective communication is the best fertilizer.

Anyway, that's why I think Republicans have fared poorly of late. But don't forget -- the media and the RINOs would have you believe that California is a liberal state and unless the Republicans become liberal, we'll continue to lose. That is just false, but if people hear it enough they'll believe it. The fact is unless the last FOUR years of Gray Davis, we had SIXTEEN years of Republican Governors; in 1994 the State Assembly had a majority Republican. In 1992 we had 32 Republican Assemblymembers; 1994 41; 1996 37; 1998 32 and 2000 30. We won and lost. We won in 1994 because Newt Gingrich had a message that people understood and appreciated, and they voted. In 1996, three of the seats we lost, we lost by 86, 191, and 1800 votes respectively. Essentially, we lost the majority in the state assembly by 2,000 votes.

We can win and we can lose. If we work hard, change our message (but NOT our principles), we will win. If we don't -- well, say hello to Governor Davis.

51 posted on 08/22/2002 9:03:09 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: My2Cents
Nooooo, we are not going to run Ruddy. We have a fine candidate and a person who is not divorced and has managed to keep his family together and a very fine family I might add. A candidate you will be proud to call your governor in Sacramento. We might even let the "Kings" beat the "LAKERS" and win an NBA champioship if you guys will help us get rid of the Dimwit. Semper Fi
52 posted on 08/22/2002 9:14:29 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: Gophack
Well said my friend. MARINE BUMP. Semper Fi
53 posted on 08/22/2002 9:19:37 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: Gophack
Bump to #51.
54 posted on 08/22/2002 10:06:23 AM PDT by eureka!
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To: Theodore R.
Democrats must be sticking together since they routinely win nearly all statewide races in CA

This just isn't true. In the most recent statewide (98) dems won Gov, Lt. Gov, Treas., Controller, and AG while the Reps won Insurance Comm, & Sec State. That's 5-2 for the Dems. In the previous statewide, (94) Republicans won ALL the state wide offices except Controller. That's 6-1 for the Reps. So speaking of the Dems "routinely" winning nearly all state wide is a bit of an exaggeration.

55 posted on 08/22/2002 12:24:03 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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What I want to know is, were those guys in convict uniforms carrying misspelled signs FReepers?

56 posted on 08/22/2002 1:23:08 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: ElkGroveDan
Well because Republicans haven't won a Senate race in CA since 1988, it just seems like forever since CA was politically competitive. Boxer, Feinstein, and Davis seem like they have been entrenched far longer than they actually have been in office.
57 posted on 08/22/2002 1:46:32 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: All
Well, I guess I was the only FReeper there.
58 posted on 08/22/2002 6:30:01 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: All
But hey, I got on camera! Wow, I am really starting to look like my father.
59 posted on 08/22/2002 9:05:09 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: Theodore R.
You folks from "the land of fruits and nuts" are amazen. You demand "pure candidates" that can not win and stay home when the so called rinos lose. And then you are happy all the while the RAT that won is screwing you.

Simon has not run a great campaign but he is not toast unless all those who know better quit.

60 posted on 08/22/2002 11:58:43 PM PDT by bybybill
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