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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Latecomer to the thead, but I agree this is good news for the GOP. That the dim strategy, after recognizing that they had been losing their "solid south" -- ostensibly as the south had become more sophisticated -- was to open the US southern border to unrestricted immigration and then to offer the freebies, all in attempt to create a new dimocrat base.

Good strategery, Mr. Kennedy, but you overlooked one possibility: the newcomers may in fact be conservatives at heart! This, I think, is what is happening. The newcomers are swaying conservative, and the dinms did not expect this outcome in their modeling. It may well be that Bush undersatnds how to attract these newcomers -- particularly in a way that past CA GOP Governor OPete Wilson did not fathom (no fault implied to Gov Wilson). Anyway, these are inded interesting developments.

105 posted on 08/21/2002 9:11:23 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I don't know what Pete Wilson was thinking, with the exception of getting re-elected. I do think that Bush is doing one thing right: He's trying to find a solution to secure the borders WITHOUT the use of mass deportations or anything that the Tancredo-Buchanan crowd wants.

See post 55. My brother's experience has convinced me that INCREASING Hispanic immigration will not be a bad thing for our country or the conservative movement.
111 posted on 08/21/2002 9:16:13 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Ah, here we go with the Blame Pete Wilson game. Funny that Pete Wilson won all of his elections. And that Prop 187 passed with over 60% of the vote. Funny that none of the pandering GOP moderates who have run since then haven't won. Oh, that's right, "it's Pete Wilson's fault" and the fault of all those nasty xenophobes who won't shut up. Couldn't ever be the fault of The Stupid Party.
135 posted on 08/21/2002 9:31:56 PM PDT by Pelham
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