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This is quite a fun topic.

My take on the issue is that any group will have bad apples. Let's just say we could make a list of all the known Muslims (alive and dead) we consider(ed) threats to Americans, how long would it be?

Maybe 10,000 Palestinians. The hierarchies of Iraq, Syria and Iran (say a couple thousand at most). A couple tens of thousands scattered across Pakistan, Afghanistan, Jordon, Saudi Arabia and those nations that encircle it. And let's be generous and say al Qaeda and the like has 50,000 members throughout the world.

Add them all up and round it up to the nearest million and we get about a million. Of course 99% of them probably can't afford to actually travel here (our presence there is a very convenient commodity) leaving 10,000 who can afford it. Of course more than half of that is already on a watch list that the customs and INS is supposed to look at - but apparently don't because they are stupid.

So assuming rounding up by about a factor of between five or ten we might have 5,000 that can ACTUALLY enter the US. We probably would catch half of them, because they would try to import weaponry (unless airport security cavity searches the 80 year old great-grandmother sitting next to them instead)

So that leaves 2,500 who may or may not have brought in their own weapons. They can rule out going to Home Depot and attempting to re-do September 11 with boxcutters because the passengers will revolt automatically. Get a gun? Perhaps if they don't mind traveling all the way over here and dying while killing a mere score at most. Attack a US military base? Well they ARE suicidal but that stupid? Maybe THEY started all those forest fires!

But back to the point, a million out of a billion doesn't constitute a bad group of people. Heck we've got more than one million Americans incarcerated for various offences out of 300 million and we hardly see crime ending.

I would contend that they use Islam as an excuse for what they do instead of a reason. What more convenient way of separating their followers from us? I recall a very rabid response from Christians when the (secular) judge ruled against "under God". Christian radicals hate secularists just as much as Muslim radicals. Muslim radicals merely take it just a couple of steps further.

My take on the issue is that any group will have bad apples.

Sorry, but it only took 19 of them to take 3,000 lives. After witnessing September 11 first hand, after watching footage of numerous suicide bombings committed by Palestinian muslims and Pakistani muslims killing Christians and Hindus (not to mention what they did to Daniel Pearl) and the horror perpetrated by muslims in the Phillipines I'm just fresh out of tolerance.

Christian radicals hate secularists just as much as Muslim radicals. Muslim radicals merely take it just a couple of steps further.

To go from indignation to decapitation would require more than a couple steps.

To equate the cultural battle between conservative Christians and secular humanists with the cultural battle between radical Islam and Western Civilization is to engage in moral relativism.

The former is a battle for the hearts and minds of a free people, and is being waged in the marketplace of ideas. The latter is a battle for our survival as a free people, and is being waged in a pool of blood.