Will Nevada Take Lid Off Pot?

Wired ^ | 2:00 a.m. Aug. 21, 2002 PDT | Elliot Borin

[WindMinstrel]

Call it Operation Desert Smoke, aka the war to legalize marijuana in Nevada. A war, pardon the clich

[WindMinstrel]

I post this not because of the Nevada initiative, but because of this point:

Anti-marijuana crusaders in the Illinois legislature are so convinced that the Internet is impeding noxious-weed-abatement efforts they've twice introduced bills to make it illegal to transmit information about marijuana over the Net. Had it not been defeated, the 2002 bill would have criminalized posting information about using or growing marijuana to websites, newsgroups, message boards, mailing lists and chat rooms.

That's damned scary -- they're not even pretending to believe in the first ammendment

[JediGirl]

Incredible, but not surprising. Typical of the drug warriors. The Kevin Curry's of the world would give this a ringing endorsement.

[steve50]

I sent a few e-mails to the guys sponsoring that one. No replies, but I better re-route my trips west after what I had to say to those lads.

[tacticalogic]

That's damned scary -- they're not even pretending to believe in the first ammendment

Not surprising, really. They don't pretend to believe in the 10th either, and embrace FDR's New Deal interpretation of the Commerce Clause.

[tacticalogic]

but I better re-route my trips

LA via Omaha?

[Dakmar]

Anyone who is afraid of the free flow of information (except for military or patent type information of course) is obviously aware that their side is wrong. That's why it was illegal in the old south to teach slaves to read and write.

[WindMinstrel]

"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State."
– Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels

[headsonpikes]

Truth IS the greatest enemy of the State.

Never forget that.

[Dakmar]

LA via Omaha?

Watch out for ol' Green Teeth.

[philman_36]

Watch out for ol' Green Teeth.
Even ol' Green Teeth wasn't a Commie. He took great offense in that Commie flag in the garage comment!
Uneasy Rider
And he jumped up an' said: 'Now, just wait a minute, Jim
Snip...And I ain't even got a garage, you can call home and ask my wife'

Mr. Charlie sure does tell good stories.

[sawsalimb]

lol-you beat me to it.

[bat-boy]

Which is exactly why Asscrap tried to do the same thing in the Meth Act when he was a Missouri Senator. Which is also why he is now trying to shut down all of the med. marijuana clubs.

He and the rest of his ilk are afraid people will learn the truth about marijuana and find out that they have been lied to by their supposedly small government "conservative" (neo-con is the real term)representatives.

[sawsalimb]

I'm too lazy to go look up the actual quote at the moment,but Tibor Machan said something to the effect that:

Thinking of the government as a gang of thugs who have come to rob you is the beginning of wisdom.

I'll go look it up and provide the exact wording. It's a sentiment that's worth keeping in mind.

[Dogrobber]

Truth IS the greatest enemy of the State.

Never forget that.

This is only true where the State operates on lies. Brand me for an idealist, but I actually do believe that it is possible for a government to govern by, with and through the use of truth. I also am not so foolish as to think it happens all the time. I do believe that in many States of the United States, and in parts of the United States government, there are honorable men and women who strive to govern honestly and truthfully. Unfortunately, we have just come off the adminstration of the most vile and deceptive liar in recent times(Willie J.) and the effect of his being a "poster child" for all unabashed liars is still with us. The worst of it is that one of our major parties (the Democrats) sold its soul to stay in power with its Liar in Chief and that has damaged the United States more than we know.

[vin-one]

Wind, Thanks for the Bong. Bump to the WOD_list

been a bunch of articles out today,

the tide is changing,,,, hurray....

[headsonpikes]

While there is no doubt that honest and honorable people do indeed work for various governments, nevertheless the modern state MUST act on a foundation of lies.

Demands of state require no less. For a government to speak and act honestly would upset the entire international order. I am not being ironic.

[bat-boy]

Yes it is in effect, but the most egregious parts were taken out in conference.

They got the last laugh though by, as you said, turning around and adding it to the un-Patriot Act.

Freakin scum those DC politicians.