[Grampa Dave]

Thugs is a wonderful descriptive word. We need to revive it when we talk about the Green Thugs.

I don't know how long this chart will stay up. It is a chart of the flow on the American River below Nimbus. The average flow for 97 years for this time of year is about 700 to 800 cubic feet per second. It has been running as high as 3,000 to 2,000 cubic feet per second.

So today's flow is about 3 times the normal average flow. It makes it about impossible to fish, very dangersous for all but the white water nazis.

Also, after two summers of these flows, the bug/insect life in the river downstream for miles below Nimbus is becoming less each day. My last trip up, there was not even an evening hatch, let alone a mid afternoon hatch.

So this is another twofer win for the thugs. Gray Davis gets a lot of hydro powe, and his white water enviral thugs get fast moving water to get two rentals per day.

[ClaireSolt]

It seems to me that the "enviornmental vote" is mainly from New York city and LA-- city dwellers who have no idea at all about any of this really. Most probably do not speak English well enough to follow this thread, either.