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What is sad is that anyone should care either way, on either side of the issue. He never disgraced his position, and brought much comfort and joy to all those with whom he was associated. For me, that is more than enough. For me, that is everything.

Of course, it matters. The man took a vow to live a celibate life. His church sees homosexuality as sodomy- a sin. To say that a man is a homosexual is to defame him. These are all truisms-not honestly disputable.

Now, when the man is dead, and cannot answer for himself, individuals campaign publicly to characterize him as a sinner who betrayed his most solemn vows that were the foundation upon which he lived his life. Do you really mean to say that this is not an important matter?! If so, I feel badly for you. Does the truth and honor not matter to you at all?

I recall being depressed upon hearing that the Church in which I grew up--but no longer am associated with--had fallen to such depths that it would have an "openly gay priest" running around lower Manhattan for several years being a chaplain to heroic firemen who were reported to love him deeply.

This was a great disconnect--hard to fathom what that "love" really meant. Was it the love of real men? Or was it immature sodomy? The firemen that I knew growing up in NYC would not have "loved" a "gay" man. Something smelled wrong in this story from the beginning. The story tried to besmirch the heroic firemen as well. The firemen were being praised all over. The sodomites must have thought--Let's make them appear to be like us, so we may be associated with those who are being praised; and if the public has a problem with their mysterious "love" of a gay priest in their firehouses, well tough on them. Such are the hearts of the "gay boys". Indeed, they are among us. And yes, they never will grow up.

The church I knew would not have countenanced any "openly gay priests". If it had now in the past 30 years, indeed, come to this, things were worse than I had thought for the Church. If we rely on the press, the Church is lessened in the public's mind. Later, when the scandal of the homosexual priests sexually molesting boys entrusted to their care was writ large across the same "media", I gave up all hope for the church of which I still hold in gratitude for my formation in youth.

The alleged fact came to light in the recent chld sex abuse scandal that since the late 1960's, the hierarchy had abandoned their supervisory duties over many seminaries, and virtual homsexual colonies had sprung up within the church as a result. Obviously, the activists had the aim of perverting and destroying the Roman Catholic Church which they planned to make an unwitting host to their lifestyle and agenda. Masquerading as real priests, these sodomites would seek to corrupt the faithul in the Church who looked to their priests for moral guidance. The shock was not that the sodomites would seek that end--as perverse and sick and as hateful as it is. Rather, the shock was that the hierarchy had allowed them to do so. I heard a figure of one-third to one-half of priests were homosexuals. You can imagine my disgust.

I left the church at the time that this abdication, among others, was first occurring around 1969. The Vatican Council had made all this possible, but not inevitable. It was painful to see what had happened. The failure of leadership and loss of faith in principles at that time in government, business, universities and child education, did not escape the Catholic hierarchy.

This story about Fr. Judge is important in that it reveals the kind of people who associate around the fringes of the church and try to sully and destroy its reputation and character as well as its individual priests. Of course, the leftist femininst press happily joins in with both feet. The inveterate liar and plagerist, Michael Barnicle, went on in print, TV and the Imus radio show to nationaly characterize this man as a "gay priest" as he was lionizing him. Do not believe for an instant that he would have mentioned Mychal Judge at all, if he did not have some alleged basis to lay the false [in more than one sense] adjective "gay" upon Mychal Judge's memory.

These people are detestable. And so are you, Torie, if you do not think that it matters.

He never disgraced his position, and brought much comfort and joy to all those with whom he was associated.

I agree with you about that. I would hope that that will be what he is remembered for.

What is sad is that anyone should care either way, on either side of the issue. He never disgraced his position, and brought much comfort and joy to all those with whom he was associated. For me, that is more than enough. For me, that is everything.No one should be lied about after they are dead, especially for political purposes. That should matter. That is what is sad. Would you be outraged if the lie had been told the other way around? That is the true test of how much you care.