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How 'Gay' Activists Smeared Father Mychal Judge
Culture and Family ^ | June 28, 2002 | Dennis Lynch

Posted on 08/18/2002 3:05:56 PM PDT by NYer

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I recall a thread back in July with a link to this story, and searched FreeRepublic, unsuccessfully, before posting this story. If has already been posted, my apologies for the duplicate post.

As we draw closer to the anniversary of September 11, I feel compelled to clear the good name and reputation of Fr. Mychal Judge who has been besmirched by activists with an agenda.

1 posted on 08/18/2002 3:05:56 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Siobhan; american colleen; sinkspur; Aliska; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; ...
It always struck me strange that so much emphasis was placed on the supposed "fact" that Fr. Judge was gay. Finally, the truth is out. Please share this story with anyone and everyone you know. As we approach the anniversary of September 11, let's clear the record for Fr. Mychal Judge, a selfless Franciscan priest who died in service to others.

PAX ET BONUM

2 posted on 08/18/2002 3:10:42 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer
It was posted a while back, but I don't mind seeing it again.

I remember crying when I first read the story and reading about Father Judge puts a very big lump in my throat.

3 posted on 08/18/2002 3:11:41 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: NYer
Thank you for posting this.

4 posted on 08/18/2002 3:15:00 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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To: NYer
I think I do remember it being posted before, but its a nice article to repost none-the-less.

I remember reading some of the early FR threads right after 9-11 when this story first came out.

Many freepers stated the sentiment put forth in the first couple sentences of the last paragraph defending the priest against other freepers who were cutting him down for being homosexual ( they had also bought into the activist message hook, line, and sinker it seems).

Thanks for the post.

5 posted on 08/18/2002 3:18:03 PM PDT by Camber-G
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To: NYer
Yes -- I remember something like this being posted a few months back....And I posted on it too. I seem to be the only one that doesn't think this hes being misrepresented (maybe I will be proven wrong).

FWIW -- there is a two page spread on Fr. Mychal Judge in National Enquirer (no, it doesn't smear him -- in fact, it's a fairly nice tribute -- remember it N'tl Enquirer) I haven't read it close enough yet, but I don't think it even mentions the notion that he was gay.

HOWEVER, I still don't think that it was totally impossible that he could have been gay....he was after all involved in that schismatic Catholic/homosexual church association "Dignity".
6 posted on 08/18/2002 3:20:00 PM PDT by oline
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To: NYer
Sad
7 posted on 08/18/2002 3:22:37 PM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: NYer
I hadn't seen or heard of this before. I'm taken aback, but the description of Brendan Fay's behavior fits with a click. There really are people like this in the world.

Thank you for posting the article.

Oh, and by the way.....anyone who is described as "gay", as I understand the term to be defined in the gay community, is not celibate. "Gay" describes a worldview and way of life that doesn't include celibacy, or even, as far as I can ascertain, much reflection or self-examination. Except in the mirror.

8 posted on 08/18/2002 3:25:47 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: RAT Patrol
What is sad is that anyone should care either way, on either side of the issue. He never disgraced his position, and brought much comfort and joy to all those with whom he was associated. For me, that is more than enough. For me, that is everything.
9 posted on 08/18/2002 3:26:32 PM PDT by Torie
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To: oline
...he was after all involved in that schismatic Catholic/homosexual church association "Dignity".

Was he, really? Or is that something that someone put out afterward? What we have here, is a poisoned well. This story of his being gay needs very careful checking out, and debunking as per the article if in fact this Brendan Fay character has tried to hijack a dead hero.

10 posted on 08/18/2002 3:29:06 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: NYer
a lot of people are willing to lie about a lot of things to get their way. check this thread below where another christian fellow is apparently being persecuted very badly because he opposed some of what some homosexuals want.


http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/734849/posts
11 posted on 08/18/2002 3:35:09 PM PDT by Red Jones
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To: lentulusgracchus
Here is one snip that turned up on a google seach (I didn't bother to read them all). Again, this brouhaha is sad, and the folks that feel a need to litigate it even sadder.
12 posted on 08/18/2002 3:39:05 PM PDT by Torie
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To: NYer
bump
13 posted on 08/18/2002 3:39:37 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: NYer
I believe the Fathers funeral was the only firefighter funeral Hilary attended.
14 posted on 08/18/2002 3:44:44 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: lentulusgracchus
You are right, definitely a "poisoned well"....

I just did a google search on "Mychal Judge" looking to find something, anything not related to his death or something about him pre Sept 11 and the search only returned sixty+ pages and not one didn't also use the term "gay" or "homosexual" or mention some gay activist group. I'm not saying this makes it true -- I'm just annoyed that I couldn't find anything where they couldn't omit these adjectives.

So -- my ( not very insightful) conclusion is that if this business about Judge being gay is propaganda then the activists have sure done their job....sad.

I can't find anything supporting my claims (I did read this on a couple Catholic blogs), so my previous post isn't reliable. When and if I find something I will post it.
15 posted on 08/18/2002 3:45:26 PM PDT by oline
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To: NYer
How Gay Activists Smeared Father Mychal Judge
16 posted on 08/18/2002 3:53:25 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Torie
Of course, it matters. The man took a vow to live a celibate life. His church sees homosexuality as sodomy- a sin. To say that a man is a homosexual is to defame him. These are all truisms-not honestly disputable.

Now, when the man is dead, and cannot answer for himself, individuals campaign publicly to characterize him as a sinner who betrayed his most solemn vows that were the foundation upon which he lived his life. Do you really mean to say that this is not an important matter?! If so, I feel badly for you. Does the truth and honor not matter to you at all?

I recall being depressed upon hearing that the Church in which I grew up--but no longer am associated with--had fallen to such depths that it would have an "openly gay priest" running around lower Manhattan for several years being a chaplain to heroic firemen who were reported to love him deeply.

This was a great disconnect--hard to fathom what that "love" really meant. Was it the love of real men? Or was it immature sodomy? The firemen that I knew growing up in NYC would not have "loved" a "gay" man. Something smelled wrong in this story from the beginning. The story tried to besmirch the heroic firemen as well. The firemen were being praised all over. The sodomites must have thought--Let's make them appear to be like us, so we may be associated with those who are being praised; and if the public has a problem with their mysterious "love" of a gay priest in their firehouses, well tough on them. Such are the hearts of the "gay boys". Indeed, they are among us. And yes, they never will grow up.

The church I knew would not have countenanced any "openly gay priests". If it had now in the past 30 years, indeed, come to this, things were worse than I had thought for the Church. If we rely on the press, the Church is lessened in the public's mind. Later, when the scandal of the homosexual priests sexually molesting boys entrusted to their care was writ large across the same "media", I gave up all hope for the church of which I still hold in gratitude for my formation in youth.

The alleged fact came to light in the recent chld sex abuse scandal that since the late 1960's, the hierarchy had abandoned their supervisory duties over many seminaries, and virtual homsexual colonies had sprung up within the church as a result. Obviously, the activists had the aim of perverting and destroying the Roman Catholic Church which they planned to make an unwitting host to their lifestyle and agenda. Masquerading as real priests, these sodomites would seek to corrupt the faithul in the Church who looked to their priests for moral guidance. The shock was not that the sodomites would seek that end--as perverse and sick and as hateful as it is. Rather, the shock was that the hierarchy had allowed them to do so. I heard a figure of one-third to one-half of priests were homosexuals. You can imagine my disgust.

I left the church at the time that this abdication, among others, was first occurring around 1969. The Vatican Council had made all this possible, but not inevitable. It was painful to see what had happened. The failure of leadership and loss of faith in principles at that time in government, business, universities and child education, did not escape the Catholic hierarchy.

This story about Fr. Judge is important in that it reveals the kind of people who associate around the fringes of the church and try to sully and destroy its reputation and character as well as its individual priests. Of course, the leftist femininst press happily joins in with both feet. The inveterate liar and plagerist, Michael Barnicle, went on in print, TV and the Imus radio show to nationaly characterize this man as a "gay priest" as he was lionizing him. Do not believe for an instant that he would have mentioned Mychal Judge at all, if he did not have some alleged basis to lay the false [in more than one sense] adjective "gay" upon Mychal Judge's memory.

These people are detestable. And so are you, Torie, if you do not think that it matters.

17 posted on 08/18/2002 4:45:42 PM PDT by ontos-on
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To: lentulusgracchus; NYer
I think you are correct that the dignity tie in was phoney baloney. I am grateful this article is refuting the media/activist smear campaign. Peace and all good things,
18 posted on 08/18/2002 5:06:08 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: ontos-on
Well the guy probably was gay, although whether he indulged in the physical act at some point in his life I don't know or care. I do think discussion of his sexuality one way or another is unfortunate, since that is not what his life in large measure was about. But of course, it was inevitable that it would come out. Folks love to gossip, and it does have its political uses, which I also think are unfortunate. If that makes me destestable in your eyes, so be it. I call them as I see them.
19 posted on 08/18/2002 5:15:28 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Well the guy probably was gay,....

Pardon me for horning in, but what is your basis for so believing? Other than the accounts which the article posted here disputes as contaminated? Or are you just saying that the article's writer is somehow deluding himself?

By the way, this priest wasn't "gay" if he was celibate, even if he was homosexual. Which hasn't been proven, but has only been claimed by people who have an ideological axe to grind. Mike Barnicle is not what I'd call the gold standard of credibility, as ontos-on has pointed out, and the activists at Dignity, if Fr. Mychal ever spoke to their group (did he? really?) or ministered to them, may have labored under a misapprehension at least as great as the one you impute to the writer.

Care to discuss?

20 posted on 08/18/2002 5:46:11 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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