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London to Sydney in two hours? (Scramjet achieves Mach 7.6)
Yahoo! News ^ | Thu Aug 15,11:30 PM ET | Michael Christie

Posted on 08/16/2002 4:59:05 PM PDT by AM2000

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australian researchers say an air-breathing hypersonic "scramjet" engine has successfully achieved supersonic ignition in the atmosphere for the first time -- reaching 7.6 times the speed of sound.

A dream of aviation researchers for decades, scramjets, or supersonic combustion ramjets, could one day allow aircraft to travel from London to Sydney in just two hours compared with more than 20 now -- making in-flight movies obsolete.

Project leader Allan Paull said data analysed from the July 30 test showed the engine, which uses oxygen in the atmosphere to ignite hydrogen fuel, had reached Mach 7.6 -- a speed that would dramatically cut long-haul flight times around the world.

"We do believe we achieved supersonic flight for the first time," Paull, who heads the University of Queensland "HyShot" programme, told Reuters after his team had finished analysing the results from the experiment.

Engineers say any commercial application is still years down the road but the successful test of the HyShot scramjet at least proves the technology is viable.

The test over the central Australian desert of the air-breathing engine capable of speeds in excess of 5,000 km (3,100 miles) per hour was the first time engineers had managed to make a scramjet work in flight, outside an air tunnel.

The team fired the scramjet engine into the sky on back of Terrier Orion Mk70 rocket, which took it into the upper atmosphere. The engine kicked into action on the way back down at 35 km (22 miles) above the earth, with data transmitted by radio until it began to burn up.

A year ago, U.S. space agency NASA ( news - web sites)'s test of its multimillion dollar, unmanned X-43A scramjet prototype failed and a previous attempt by the HyShot crew went awry when a rocket used to launch the engine spun out of control.

SOUND BARRIER WAY BEHIND

Scramjets' first commercial application is more likely to be in satellite launching as they do not need to carry as much fuel with them as conventional rockets since they use the oxygen already in the atmosphere to ignite the hydrogen.

The extra payload potential could dramatically slash satellite launch costs.

Paull said the data analysed from the July 30 test indicated the engine had reached Mach 7.6, or 7.6 times the speed of sound.

"We received data for the full length of the 10-minute flight," he said.

At a cost of just A$1.5 million (530,000 pounds), the success came relatively cheaply compared with the tens of millions of dollars NASA has been investing in its prototype.

NASA's scramjet was mounted on an aircraft whereas the HyShot scramjet engine was launched into the atmosphere on a rocket and plummeted back down to earth. The scramjet itself burned up at around 20 km (12.4 miles) above sea level.

The HyShot project was funded by defence authorities from several countries, including Australia, Britain, the United States and Japan.

The University of Queensland said it hoped funding could now be found for continuing research into scramjets but it feared the success of HyShot could lead to the next stage of experiments being taken overseas where research pockets are deeper.

"Australia has proved we can develop this technology at a fraction of the cost of overseas programmes," university vice chancellor John Hay said in a statement.

"We must now build on success and secure the programme in Australia so the intellectual property is not lost to the country," he added.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: scramjet; techindex

1 posted on 08/16/2002 4:59:05 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: AM2000
But my luggage went to Finland!!
2 posted on 08/16/2002 5:10:45 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: APBaer
No sir, you luggage burned up at around 20 km (12.4 miles) above sea level. That's why the Yanks are putting theirs on an airplane.
3 posted on 08/16/2002 5:22:09 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: APBaer
Yeah, but it will be back in about 30 seconds.
4 posted on 08/16/2002 5:46:53 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: APBaer
This is great stuff. I love to read about human achievement. Maybe we won't see this technology provide London to Sydney air service in two hours, but something good will probably come of it.

Well done, Aussies.

5 posted on 08/16/2002 6:11:25 PM PDT by CraigH
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To: CraigH
absolutely,

top of the line seminal achievement.....

6 posted on 08/16/2002 6:28:55 PM PDT by logan five
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To: AM2000
"We do believe we achieved supersonic flight for the first time," Paull, who heads the University of Queensland "HyShot" programme, told Reuters after his team had finished analysing the results from the experiment.

Waitaminute. General Yeager did that decades ago!

7 posted on 08/16/2002 6:34:00 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: AM2000
Paull said the data analysed from the July 30 test indicated the engine had reached Mach 7.6, or 7.6 times the speed of sound.

Actual speed will be less, which Paull fails to mention since in the test, they had the help of gravity.

8 posted on 08/16/2002 6:36:15 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Frohickey
Paull said the data analysed from the July 30 test indicated the engine had reached Mach 7.6, or 7.6 times the speed of sound Cripes, first the security delays, then putting on the pressure suit,then peeling your eyeballs off the back of your head. Sounds like a 6 hour net trip.
9 posted on 08/16/2002 6:42:20 PM PDT by leadhead
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To: AM2000
t a cost of just A$1.5 million (530,000 pounds), the success came relatively cheaply compared with the tens of millions of dollars NASA has been investing in its prototype.

Unfortunately, NASA has degenerated into welfare for a few engineers, rather than an agency for advancing space technology for civilian uses and privatization of space travel.

10 posted on 08/16/2002 6:46:40 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: AM2000
The team fired the scramjet engine into the sky on back of Terrier Orion Mk70 rocket, which took it into the upper atmosphere. The engine kicked into action on the way back down at 35 km (22 miles) above the earth, with data transmitted by radio until it began to burn up.

4,500 miles per hour ... Cool!!! ... Now to work on a braking and cooling system .
11 posted on 08/16/2002 8:58:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: AM2000; *tech_index; Mathlete; Apple Pan Dowdy; grundle; beckett; billorites; One More Time; ...
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12 posted on 08/18/2002 1:44:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the pings
13 posted on 08/18/2002 6:13:01 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Scramjets' first commercial application is more likely to be in satellite launching

It would be a replacement for an upper stage if so. Most of the rocket sitting on the launch pad is fuel and oxidizer for the first stage, which gets the stack moving in the first place. By the time the stack reaches 22 miles and 5000 mph, it is down to a fraction of liftoff weight.

A scramjet might kick in at this point, but the stack would have to stay at that relatively low altitude during operation. Eventually the stack will have to climb out of the atmosphere and the scramjet won't work anymore. For this reason, --limited flight envelope--, we probably won't see satellite launch as a common use of scramjet technology.

14 posted on 08/18/2002 1:29:49 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Frohickey
I believe he may mean hypersonic.
15 posted on 08/18/2002 3:01:54 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: AM2000
This should be Americans making this type of discovery.
16 posted on 08/18/2002 3:03:42 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: Bogey78O
The NASA scramjet was launched over the Pacific on an Pegasus rocket which is carried aloft by a B-52, (go BUF).The first test flight was a failure when the Pegasus appeared to pitch up unexpectedly and the scramjet model broke off!

SCRAMJET

The article suggests that the NASA is launced from a plane while the Aussie is launched from a rocket. 'taint so.

17 posted on 08/18/2002 3:19:02 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Bogey78O
We're involved, even if it's not our invention. Better than not being involved at all, I suppose.



18 posted on 08/18/2002 6:08:38 PM PDT by AM2000
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