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There are about six different articles today about these weenies and a bunch of Brit weenies saying the same dang thing. They are the same group the presided over the end of the Viet Nam conflict and thereafter. That is why they are not part of the current administration. They all should get back to their retirement. We either finish this now or get used to nine-eleven like events and give up one or two liberties a day for the rest of our lives.

They are the same group the presided over the end of the Viet Nam conflict and thereafter.

True, but the current bunch is the same group that's given us airport security, the anthrax investigation, the color-code follies and various vague threats-of-the-week.

Do we really want to go to war under the direction of folks who are not too competent?

Don't believe all the disinformation.

Perhaps but....those pushing for war have the same world saving engineering hubris as the whiz kids who got us in the Vietnam War. An attempt to bring democracy to the hell hole of Iraq is a recipe for the endless spilling of American blood, treasure in futile nation building efforts. I, for one, hope the war hawks are stopped.

I would love to see Saddam gone, but the suggestion that once gone, we're all set doesn't seem correct to me.

My bent after 9-11 was to eliminate the Aswan Dam, all of sadaam's installations, the Bekaa valley, Egypt's largest airfield, Syria's airfields, power grid and military bases, the same for Iran and to eliminate Riyadh's power grid and capture back our base there. On day two the question would be asked , again, who wants to dance and who wants to sit down and talk? The dance tune on day three would be more of the same. This is NOT a dove. However, at this time, Iraq is maybe fifth o0n the list of nations actively plotting harm to the United States. China is far and away number one. North Korea is number two. Iran is number three. Egypt and Saudi Arabia share number four. Iraq, Pakistan and various countries in Africa share spot number five. Destroy Sadaam? Sure. In due time friends, in due time. The head pat from Daddy can wait. Until we choke off the hemmorhage of capital, technology and outright military secrets gushing into China , anything we do to Sadaam, with respect to improving the chances that our grandchildren will survive is just 'spitting in the wind'. The Asian hordes overran Western Civilization two thousand years ago. They were dominant for a thousand years. Most of what civilization had developed over the past ten thousand years was destroyed. Another Asian tried the same thing this past century. Now it is the year of Red Dragon Rising; and we fed and poured the fire in the belly of the dragon to be used to incinerate us and our own. Sadaam is an ant on an elephant's ass. What's wrong? No one have the guts to speak up and take action to stand up to China? They stole our most expensive satellite , have infiltrated our research labs and industry and military, crashed our plane then stole everything on it and spit in our eye. Please do not make me listen to haughty words about Sadaam when not a damned thing was done about our Orion. China SWATTED us , and we flinched and took it. Now continue your big talk.

In an opinion article published today in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft, who helped build the broad international coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf war, warned that "an attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counter-terrorist campaign we have undertaken." An attack might provoke Iraq to use chemical or biological weapons in an effort to trigger war between Israel and the Arab world, he said

complete bull$hit. The only thing these terrorist primitives understand is force. There were many states that fell in line after our success in Afghanistan, some publicly, some less so. I beleive the Saudis, Syrians, Iranians are all secretly 100% US allies. This crap you here in the media is just that, PR cover stories. When the caca starts to hit the fan we'll find out who the allies are.

But these arab islamic jerkoffs have short memories, that's why you find once openly public allied states like Jordan starting to backtrack. That's why we're seing more attacks like the bombings in Pakistan. Therefore, the US must administer another dose of force. If it has to be in Iraq, so be it.

Who in the hell ever said Iraq needed to be an "imminent threat" anyway? The Bush doctrine is one of preemption. Bush has rightly concluded that realigning the backwards arab/muslim world is the only way we will ever combat muslim terrorism. And the world will thank us.

Iraq is merely a convenient example. They are weak, they are unallied. The war will be a simple matter, divide the country into thirds according to the no-fly zones and starve out Bagdad. The kurds and other opposition groups will gladly take possession of Kurdistan in the north, and the oilfield and Persian gulf access in the south.

My only wish is that government would start to explain this reasoning to the American public.