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Yugoslav president to run for Serbian presidency
AP via Yahoo ^ | Aug 15, 2002 | Dusan Stojanovic

Posted on 08/15/2002 2:09:08 PM PDT by bob808

BELGRADE, Yugoslavia - Yugoslav President Vojislav Kostunica will run in Serbia's upcoming presidential elections, splitting up pro-democracy votes and giving a chance to an ulranationalist candidate, a newspaper reported Thursday.

The Blic daily, quoting sources from Kostunica's Democratic Party of Serbia, said he will announce the widely expected nomination for the Serbian presidency by Aug. 24.

Kostunica, a moderate nationalist, is the frontrunner in pre-election polls for the vote set for Sept. 29. Kostunica's office refused to confirm the Blic report.

The Serbian presidency is expected to gain power and prestige later this year after Yugoslavia is transformed into a new, more decentralized country called Serbia and Montenegro after its two constituent republics.

Other candidates for the Serbian presidency include Miroljub Labus, a popular economist and deputy prime minister, and ultranationalist leader Vojislav Seselj, who is supported by former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic ( news - web sites), now on trial at the U.N. war crimes tribunal in The Hague ( news - web sites), Netherlands.

Kostunica's running in the elections would mark his definitive split with the rest of a pro-democracy bloc that toppled Milosevic in a popular uprising in October 2000.

Labus' candidacy is indirectly supported by the pro-Western faction of the democratic bloc. The split in votes among the pro-democrats in Serbia could give a chance to Seselj — a right-wing neo-nationalist — in the presidential vote.

Seselj, a former leader of dreaded Serb paramilitary forces which fought in the Croatian and Bosnian wars, has declared his "chief objective" was to beat Labus.

Labus, a pro-Western pragmatist, would be favored to win the elections if Kostunica was not running.

Mirjana Markovic, Milosevic's wife and the leader of the small neo-communist Yugoslav Left party, told the Vecernje Novosti newspaper Thursday that "if the (presidential) elections are fair," Seselj, as a joint candidate of the opposition, should reach the second round of voting.

"From my point of view, the joint candidate of the opposition should be Slobodan," Markovic said. "But because of mistakes made someone ... he is not that candidate," she added, referring to the alleged lack of support for Milosevic within his Socialist Party.

Writing from his U.N. prison cell in the Netherlands, Milosevic earlier this week urged Serbs to vote for Seselj in the presidential elections.

With the letter, Milosevic has ruled out running himself in the vote, said Zoran Andjelkovic, a top official of Milosevic's party. The party, which has been distancing itself from Milosevic lately, is likely to field its own presidential candidate.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; kostunica; serbia; yugoslavia
Apparently now Kostunica is "splitting up pro-democracy votes". So now it's wrong to have multiple candidates in democratic elections?

Labus is a "a pro-Western pragmatist". Didn't they described Djindjic the same way? That's enough reason not to vote for him in my book.

1 posted on 08/15/2002 2:09:08 PM PDT by bob808
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To: Destro; vooch; Banat; Tamodaleko; Kate22; Tropoljac
Bump
2 posted on 08/15/2002 2:10:26 PM PDT by bob808
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To: bob808; Banat; kosta50
After the Blic report, VK in the interview with NIN and Mr. Marsicanin (DSS vice-president) in the interview for B92 are still speculating possibility VK passes on the upcoming election. The word is VK is affraid federation might die???
Banat should have more info.

Kosta ping!
3 posted on 08/15/2002 3:20:26 PM PDT by Tamodaleko
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To: Tamodaleko
I thought it was exactly BECAUSE the Yugoslav federation may be comming to an end that Kostunica would be running for the Serbian presidency - otherwise, he's out of a job.
4 posted on 08/15/2002 3:40:18 PM PDT by bob808
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To: bob808
Yes, I would think as well, but what's VK hesitating for again? Waiting for Dj. to wake him up with a Labus shake? Dunno!
5 posted on 08/15/2002 4:19:44 PM PDT by Tamodaleko
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To: Tamodaleko; bob808
Dr. Koshtunitsa is not one of the candidates...yet. The Central Office of the party will have a meeting of the General Council on August 24 or 25 and then we'll know for sure. Dr. K. is clever. He's in the shade while others bitch and slander each other. Then he enters the race and wins by a landslide.

Labus cannot win (bar the election hijacking, which is not at all excluded). Djindjich has some very powerful friends in the underworld who would like to keep their privileges intact. Serbia is sliding towards a similar situation that Russia found herself in under Yeltsin. That is if Labus wins. If Dr. K. wins -- which is almost certain -- there might still be hope for Serbia to become a normal country.

BTW, Labus' election HQ is the ex-HQ of the Beogradska Banka, which he and the Governor of the National Bank 'liquidated' this past February and left some 10,000 people jobless. Now they're using a couple of hundred square metres in that building for their election campaign. They have a 6 million dollar budget. Now we know where at least a part of the foreign aid received so far has gone.

Dr. K. has done more than anyone to keep Yugoslavia together. He's still committed to the work and will be committed to it even after he becomes President of Serbia.

6 posted on 08/15/2002 5:30:54 PM PDT by Banat
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VK always waited for someone else to make a decision for him. He didn't even have the backbone to quit DOS but waited for Djindjich to throw his party out. Voyvodina's partliament did a similar thing months ago. It makes me wanna puke.

VK did just one thing: he beat Miloshevich in an election that was heavily subsidized, indeed, bought by American money.

Besides, the executive power rests in the office of the prime minister, so regardless who the new president of Serbia is, Djindjich will still call all the shots. In that respect, I can fully understand why VK may be reluctant.

BTW, VK did not keep Yugoslavia together. Yugoslavia lasted this long not because, but in spite of Koshtunitsa. And, Koshtunitsa was a president of a fictitious land called Yugslavia, a pretend country, indeed a sharade, which Neboysha Malich, in his eloquent wisdom, calls the "un-dead." This living corpse has not been a viable country for a long time. Podgoritsa was ignoring Belgrade's decisions with unchecked liberty -- from introducing separate currency to not recognizing the federal government.

7 posted on 08/17/2002 12:00:22 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50
VK's party is the only Serbian party (I don't count the NDS, as it was formed after 5 OCT 00) that hasn't received a DIME of foreign "aid".

The President of Serbia can dissolve the Parliament upon the recommendation of the PM (which is not going to happen) but he can always declare the state of emergency and then dissolve it (which is, by the way, Drashkovich's idea of solving the problem; it is in his election programme).

The DOS is falling apart. Five member-parties have refused to back Labus - their own candidate - who is trying to sell himself as a GG candidate. It's not working.

8 posted on 08/17/2002 5:17:57 PM PDT by Banat
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To: Banat
Whether or not DSS received any money from various US .gov sources is irrelevant. DSS was part of one coalition called DOS, and DOS received foreign "subsidies." Guilt by association, my friend; it's the company you keep.

The US money (some $100M) pumped into the DOS campaign came from the shadow US "embassy" in Hungary. The B92 DOS mouthpieces and Otpor activists didn't even hide the fact that they were getting foreign money (which makes them, technically, foreign agents).

Let's just call it what it is: the elections were bought, period. Miloshevich turned out to be a lot tougher nut to crack than they thought. The DOS "victory" was marginal to say the least. So, it took some outright thuggery to tip the scale. The thugs who came to Belgrade for a "spontaneous" October "revolution" were paid by the Chachak mayor who got the money from where? Let me guess...

Why is Drashkovich not in a mental institution? That man has no bearings. I think (hope) he is politically finished.

So, the president of Serbia can just up and declare a state of emergency in order to dissolve the parliament? I would imagine that some sort of urgency would actually have to exist to do that, or is that too much to expect from the Balkan style democracy?

Somehow I don't think Djindjich is going to sit and wait for Koshtunitsa to take the presidential oath and then declare a state of emergency to get rid of Zoran the Menice. I think he will outdo VK as he has done until now. And VK will wait for someone, especially Zoran, to make a decision for him.

Besides, VK can't make a decision about anything. I doubt he would do something illicit, staged, to unseat his rival.

9 posted on 08/17/2002 8:46:35 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50
Miloshevich would've lost with or without the money from abroad. It is not the money that buys the votes, it's the people going to the polls and circling/x-ing the candidate.

Nobody needed 100 million dollars to tell the people that their lives were crap. Most of the money ended up in private accounts, anyway.

Miloshevich was no good - he's gone. Djindjich is almost as bad, he'll be gone but in a lot less time.

Your criticism of Koshtunitsa merits no response. It is your personal opinion and I have no intention of changing it.

10 posted on 08/17/2002 10:54:03 PM PDT by Banat
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To: Banat
Voya could win (and that's a maybe) only because he is the best of the worst choice Serbia has. But he is no star performer or a leader. Leaders are team builders, motivators, people who inspire respect. VK doesn't fall into that category. Serbia has no leaders.

For someone to run on a ticket to get into an office without power, only to declare a state of emergency in order to unseat and unelected manipulative demi-dictator ala Zoran says a lot about the banana republic called Serbia. Anyone even suggesting such a process should be ashamed.

My opinion of Koshtunitsa maybe an opinion, but his inaction and letting himself be slapped around are dispicable facts.

Money doesn't buy votes? Really? Then all the fund-raisers and donations the parties ask for must be for nothing.
11 posted on 08/18/2002 5:06:03 AM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50
Money buys votes - in America. Not in Serbia. In the past 10 years, whoever tried to have a flashy campaign lost the election (remember Panich?). Most of the people live on 100 bucks a month. It is an insult for them to see a candidate spend millions on his election campaign.

There are dozens of potential new leaders of the DSS in the party. We just don't employ the sleaze tactics. It might hurt in the short, but we'll win in the long run - as will Serbia.

VK is perfectly capable of confronting Djindjich. You just have to let Djindjich do his thing. He is his worst enemy. His policies will cost him this presidential election and will surely decimate him come the Parliamentary elections.

Djindjich's oligarchy probably won't live to see 2004.

12 posted on 08/18/2002 12:35:06 PM PDT by Banat
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To: Banat
I don't see things as idealistically as you do. But I respect your opinion Banat, although I don't always see things your way. I could say that money does work in Serbia as well. For instance, the Chachak thugs had no problems being hired for political purposes to stage a little revolution for a sizable dollar reward; the B92 crew and the Otpor revolutionary wannabes were even proud to be subsidized. Everyone knows that to have is better than not to have, and to have more is better than to have less. That knowledge transcends all cultures. There is a segment in every society that is open for hire, Serbian not being an exception.

I would like to see Djindjich and his collaborationist gang unseated but I am not so sure that he will be replaced by something much better. VK certainly has the moral fiber that could save Serbia, but he lacks leadership (team-building) talent. Still, given the choices, he is the best Serbia has.

13 posted on 08/19/2002 9:26:10 AM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50
Kosta, you know full well that even without the $$$ those scoundrels would've turned against their own people and country. To quote Cornelius Codreanu - "If I had one bullet left, and an enemy soldier and a traitor before me, I'd shoot the traitor."

I hated those bastards when they were against Miloshevich because I KNEW they would not do the same in case Djindjich turned out to be just another Miloshevich. And I was right (you were too, I am sure). There are some honourable exceptions but the vast majority of Otporashi are just sleazebags. The best example is Cheda Yovanovich.

Koshtunitsa's future Serbian government is not the end. It is just a step towards a more normal country. Let us hope that Serbia will be a better place with each new government.

Pozdrav

14 posted on 08/19/2002 12:29:14 PM PDT by Banat
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To: Banat
Let's hope so.
16 posted on 08/19/2002 7:03:57 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: Tropoljac
So...? :-) What's wrong with the guy? I was just reading something about post-WWI Romania and was reminded of him.
17 posted on 08/19/2002 7:23:30 PM PDT by Banat
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To: Tropoljac
I fail to see the connection between Codreanu and Pavelich. I don't think Codreanu ever oversaw, oh say, the murder of 700,000 people.
19 posted on 08/19/2002 11:42:20 PM PDT by Banat
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